sam AF question

[IxX3xil3d0n3XxI]

im starting up sam as my melee main and i like it a lot so far. I was looking at the AF and to me it really didnt seen all that usefull, with the exception of 1-2 pieces. i was wondering if it is worth it to get the af or just farm better gear like scorp harness or something. any advice will help ^^

[samarium]

Re: sam AF question

Just from looking at the armor pieces, I'll say there're better things out there. The +Enmity is completely undesirable, the stat bonuses it grants are mostly acceptable but nothing too special, but I'd do it for the hat. Enhancing Meditate would be very, very nice... plus, who doesn't want all their AF just for kitsch value?

-sam

[Icemage]

Re: sam AF question

plus, who doesn't want all their AF just for kitsch value?

Bards.

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Most of the Samurai AF is pretty meh, it's true. Myochin Haidate (legs) has a reasonably useful STR+3, and of course the Myochin Kabuto (head) has the very nice Meditate boost. The rest of the pieces might as well not exist for all the use that you'll probably get out of them (though their AF+1 versions after upgrading are somewhat better).


Icemage

[samarium]

Re: sam AF question

Bards.

Icemage

HAH!

Yeah. The poor unfortunate Bards of Vanadiel certainly got the short straw when AF was handed out (not even going to mention the Sha'ir... uh... fashion).

But they can also wear the Demon Head, which certainly has SOME redeeming quality.

-sam

[IxX3xil3d0n3XxI]

Re: sam AF question

i was thinking or purchasing a Hauby from farming that would be nice, and is the head hard to get?

[samarium]

Re: sam AF question

i was thinking or purchasing a Hauby from farming that would be nice, and is the head hard to get?

The head's the final piece you obtain, which means you have to complete the AF weapon quest and the AF1 quest before you can get the quest for it.

As a matter of interest, do you have to get the gauntlets or any of the other coffer pieces before activating the AF3 quest? I really don't know.

But a Hauberk would definitely compliment your insane SAM DD-ness more effectively than a Scorp Harness would.

-sam

[IxX3xil3d0n3XxI]

Re: sam AF question

sweet i cant wait to get higher i really like sam. A few more questions=
1) how are pt invites later in the game? like after kazam 35+

2)while lvling up is concentrating on str and dex the right thing to do? oh and acc or course i have a venerer's ring

[Tatha-Kitten]

Re: sam AF question

Sam get invites are a pretty average rate, they're good at what they do, and if you're a good sam, then you'll get invites, people seem to remember samurai's reputations.

[Tadekatsu]

Re: sam AF question

In my opinion, most of the SAM AF is pretty lack luster... The Myochin Haidate (legs, lvl 54) are useful for their STR+ and Parrying+ but some may argue that R.K. Breeches (55) are better, and they are fairly inexpensive.

The Myochin Kabuto (helm, 60) is the winner here, for obvious reasons.. it can be a little tough to get, but not too terrible. To get this quest from Jaucabrix (sp?) You need to have the SAM AF Myochin Sune-ate.

and btw, you mentioned that you were thinking of getting a hauby? DO IT, this piece of gear will be useful forever.. literally, it's endgame worthy. I popped mine on the second I hit 59, I'm almost 60 now and I've already noticed a large difference from it.. well.. and from the Daihannya and Sipahi Turban.

[Itatchi]

Re: sam AF question

Just get the full set, you need to get the helmet anyway. Plus I still use the pants for WS. And have the rest of the armor.. is nice to wear.. not really useful except storage wise, or if your poor, you eat certain Riceballs with AF gloves.

Helmet for Meditate & Now Warding Circle (Seems to make Warding Circle last longer) for fighting imps in expanded area.

Pants for Macroing in for WS.

All else, keep so you can put all into storage when your on another job.

[Hubby]

Re: sam AF question

im starting up sam as my melee main and i like it a lot so far. I was looking at the AF and to me it really didnt seen all that usefull, with the exception of 1-2 pieces. i was wondering if it is worth it to get the af or just farm better gear like scorp harness or something. any advice will help ^^

Your Kabuto will last you forever. I use it in combination with af2 hands for 140-160tp per meditate. I can usually whip out 3 WS per mob per meditate in xp before it's dead (if the mob lasts that long). The hands are good for soloing/farming at later levels. Pop a riceball, use EVA+ gear, sub NIN, and get to work. Don't bother with a scorpion's harness on SAM. It has no advantage over Hauby for your job function.