Problem about AF quest

[Jei]

This is actually happenning to my friend who is playing SAM. He completed AF weapon and I think he threw it away.
Now his Sam is 53, he can't accept any other AF quest at all.
The AF2, the AF coffer both are not offered to him and he has no other incomplete AF quests left in his log.
He can't erase memory in lower jeuno nor accept quest for AF1 again.

Is throwing away AF weapon the cause? What do you think is the best thing he can try to get around this problem?

[ultimaknight]

Re: Problem about AF quest

http://ffxi.somepage.com/questdb/517

According to that it should allow him to reset the AF quest for a specific job. Never tried it, so I don't know if it works on the AF weapons or not, but its worth a try I suppose.

Also, it mentions you had to complete the quest to begin with. But it may still be worth a try.

[Jei]

Re: Problem about AF quest

the npc only offers AF quest that are complete full set. there's no SAM in the list for him

[little ninja]

Re: Problem about AF quest

i thought this only happened if you didnt fully complete a previous af quest. i know i had to finish my drk AF hands before i could take up any ninja af quests for armor. as for throwing away AF weapons for jobs, i never heard of it happening before. can your friend buy another Sword an redue AF quest for the weapon again?

[Jei]

Re: Problem about AF quest

I suggested that to him too. He said he couldn't buy the sword without having the the AF1 quest active. But he already completed it and the NPC isn't offering him the quest anymore.
anyway he's off line now. I'll make sure to pass the word to him again. thanks.

[little ninja]

Re: Problem about AF quest

if its complete then it shouldnt matter what he does with the weapon. since it has no bearing on the next AF's. like its been suggested, he should go back to his previous jobs an make sure he has no other AF quests active. cause i know for sure this will stop the next time he tries an AF. then again maybe he didnt do the next AF quest right. thats happen to me before. or maybe he got a CS an just doesnt remember it. also happened to me with other cop quests.

1. what jobs are 40-60 that may be involved with an af quest.
2. did he go about the af quest right. talk to everyone an do all the side quests for it.
3. did he forget about a CS an just doesnt know it.

[Aeni]

Re: Problem about AF quest

This is actually happenning to my friend who is playing SAM. He completed AF weapon and I think he threw it away.
Now his Sam is 53, he can't accept any other AF quest at all.
The AF2, the AF coffer both are not offered to him and he has no other incomplete AF quests left in his log.
He can't erase memory in lower jeuno nor accept quest for AF1 again.

Is throwing away AF weapon the cause? What do you think is the best thing he can try to get around this problem?

No. Throwing away the weapon should not have affected this. He might've accepted an AF quest on another job. Does he have another job that's in this level range (or even higher) and if so, did he finish all of his AF quest on that job? Also, he needs to make sure that a prerequisite for an AF quest was done before talking to an NPC. For example, if he had to talk to another person before starting an AF quest.

Also, there might be rare instances where he has accepted a non-AF related quest from an NPC that doubles as the AF quest giver (I know Cid, for example, is involved in much more than just getting an AF quest from him) He needs to complete that quest before he can have the NPC tell him something else.

[Tirrock]

Re: Problem about AF quest

Having AF quests incomplete makes it so you can't activate new AF quests for another job? I could have sworn that it didn't do that. I had BLM AF2 incomplete (I just had to go to windurst and pick up my boots) for months, and I could have sworn I started MNK AF2 and 3, as well as RNG AF2 and PLD AF1. I could be remembering this wrong though.... It's been a while since I did those quests.

[little ninja]

Re: Problem about AF quest

Having AF quests incomplete makes it so you can't activate new AF quests for another job? I could have sworn that it didn't do that. I had BLM AF2 incomplete (I just had to go to windurst and pick up my boots) for months, and I could have sworn I started MNK AF2 and 3, as well as RNG AF2 and PLD AF1. I could be remembering this wrong though.... It's been a while since I did those quests.

actually its like this. if you start a quest like dark knights AF hands. then switch to say ninja, an try to do ninja AF hands. the NPC wont give you the quest until you finish drk knight AF hands. then you can start up ninja af hands, thats what they mean. this also includes the af weapon. if you started a af weapon for lets say war. you cant recieve a af quest for dark af hands. something thats also what happened to me.

another time i saw this is for weapon of trials. you can only have one WS trial open at a time. so you cant have axe, an great axe open at the same time. an you must complete the one before you can except the other one. being gain all 300 points, trading in weapon, then figthing the wsnm, then going back to starting npc to finish it off.

im not sure how the canceling of the WS points effects trying to do other ws trials, or if it even effects AF quests, it might. but not 100% sure.

[Aeni]

Re: Problem about AF quest

im not sure how the canceling of the WS points effects trying to do other ws trials, or if it even effects AF quests, it might. but not 100% sure.

It's on a different path of quests...

[Path 1]
AF Weapon

[Path 2]
AF Set (Excluding Weapon)

[Path 3]
WS

However, for Path 2 to occur, I'm pretty sure you need to finish Path 1. Path 3 is not related to the other paths and can be done when you meet requirements (Certain minimum job level and skill level for the weapon in question)

That's my understanding anyway. I had a DRG friend who took up PLD (He quit DRG at 62 I think ... and never finished his DRG Helm Quest due to lack of help available at the time) and couldn't get any of his PLD quest started. He *had* to go back and finish up on his DRG AF runs before going back to PLD.

Not sure why SE did this, but maybe it's memory limitations or something (When too many flags are opened it might cause the logic to go haywire and cause weird glitches to occur, like someone being able to do one part of an AF quest multiple times)

[little ninja]

Re: Problem about AF quest

aeni your friend drg had the same problem i did with my dark af hands. an it did involve me going back an finishing up drk, before i could go on in my other afs. my only thing is i am not sure if you rule out AF weapons from affecting AF armor.

[Tirrock]

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Ah...Little Ninja's example stirred up some memories... I think I got lucky on when I completed the quests. The only time I had a "problem" with AF was with my hands. I had started a AF hands quest for either BLM or RNG, and I couldn't remember which it was. So I went out to garliage and opened a coffer to find out. Unfortunately, it was RNG AF. >_> My BLM was about to hit 54 at that time.

[Aeni]

Re: Problem about AF quest

aeni your friend drg had the same problem i did with my dark af hands. an it did involve me going back an finishing up drk, before i could go on in my other afs. my only thing is i am not sure if you rule out AF weapons from affecting AF armor.

No, you can. The weapon in itself has nothing to do with the rest of the AF set. This is because you have to remember that the original level cap before Rise of the Zilarts was release was at level 50. The AF1 (Or I just call it AF Weapon) quest was available for all level 41s at the time. This was to introduce "better" weapons that suited the job class and there were talks about latency effect and what have you (But either SE nerfed it or didn't properly implement the items or it was just utter crap after all)

When RoZ came out, genkais were introduced up to level 60. Thus, AF quest and the equipment pieces were introduced, but had nothing to do with the AF Weapons quest. You can ask several of my friends who've had an AF Set quest open for one job, but still were able to complete and obtain AF Weapons for 2 or 3 other job classes.

[little ninja]

Re: Problem about AF quest

No, you can. The weapon in itself has nothing to do with the rest of the AF set. This is because you have to remember that the original level cap before Rise of the Zilarts was release was at level 50. The AF1 (Or I just call it AF Weapon) quest was available for all level 41s at the time. This was to introduce "better" weapons that suited the job class and there were talks about latency effect and what have you (But either SE nerfed it or didn't properly implement the items or it was just utter crap after all)

When RoZ came out, genkais were introduced up to level 60. Thus, AF quest and the equipment pieces were introduced, but had nothing to do with the AF Weapons quest. You can ask several of my friends who've had an AF Set quest open for one job, but still were able to complete and obtain AF Weapons for 2 or 3 other job classes.

all valid points. but im sorry to say, you are wrong!!!


actually your not wrong, infact thats some good info. an that it makes alot of sense. i wasnt sure when they really implimented the whole weapon thing. i thought it was around the same time when they impliment AF's, that they implimented weapons as well. but if it did happen before they even added AF, then i guess we could seperate it, an eliminate it as one of the reasons why jei's friend cant finish his AF quest.

/bows to Aeni....

[Tirrock]

Re: Problem about AF quest

Level 55 cap was removed on September 2002. November 2002 the cap was raised to 60, they also came out with AF (armor) then. December 2002 they announced Zilart. Zilart came out in April 2003, and it looks like in april they raised the level cap to 65.

http://www.qcdn.org/showthread.php?t=5009&page=2