New to game and have some questions

[Nemesismo]

Hey there, im as u can see freshly new in this forum and im receiving my copy of FF11 tomorrow. (Been playing WoW for the last 8 months ) And ive played my friends FF11 account a few times and now ive decided to join u all in this hopefully great game. Now i have a few questions about this (Mainly concerning Samurai)

Now i have already decided a few things for my playing but im interested in hearing ure opinions and ideas.

1. I wanna be mainly a DD so therefore I thought a warrior would be a good start, but lately ive been seeing all this talk about monk being more effective as a damage dealer and am now confused (Plus im not getting the whole "Level monk to 18 ---> war to 34 ----> Then sam all the way")

2. How long does it take to level in FF11 nowadays because i remember when i played like a year ago on my friends account, it went.........pretty damn slow.....

3. Is money a very important thing to have alot of in order to do well in the game?

I know this might be a lot, but ive just been so into the whole FF11 lately and tomorrow im finally gonna play it so i would like be somewhat informed on how to achieve some success in my future gameplaying.

Thank you for reading all this

(Answer if youd like to )

[aegina]

Re: New to game and have some questions

compared to wow, levelling in ffxi is slow,yes. wow seems to be geared towards players with short attention spans, or who are pressed for time.

money is important because the player-run economy has been having some economic issues lately. when you start playing, make sure you buy your equipment from npc's (not the auction house) and i'm sure you'll be fine.

and i'll answer your first questin last. in ffxi, there really is no "better" dd. how good a dd performs depends more on how it is played than the job itself. if you want to be a samurai, just be a samurai and don't pay any attention to the monks, dark knights, and dragoons. samurai holds up just fine.

samurai as a dd is a very interesting job. in this game, there are what are called skill chains. if different players use their abilities on a mob in the proper order, you are given bonus damage. a samurai deals his damage through that bonus damage, by using abilities that can start or finish those skill chains easier than most jobs can. when used correctly, the samuai can be the most destructive damager in the game, but it takes practice.

now i'll explain the whole "monk to 18 > war to 37 > samurai to 75" thing. in this game, you have not only your main job, but a sub job as well. your sub can be any job you choose, but some subs are better than others. sub jobs don't become available to you until you reach level 18. before that time, you play only one regular job, just like in wow.

the point behind "monk to 18, war to 37, sam all the way," is that you should always level your sub job first. the sub job you use for sam is (usually) warrior. so, you'll need a subjob for your warrior when you're playing that. first, you play as a monk until level 18. at level 18, sub jobs become available to you. head back to your hometown and change to war/monk and play that to 37. you now have your subjob levelled so you can play samurai all the way to 75.

remember also that you can change your job at any time. don't feel you must stick to only one job. personally, i had a lot of fun levelling all jobs to 20 on the same character.

have fun and welcome to vana diel

[Nemesismo]

Re: New to game and have some questions

Ok I see, so in a sense, you cant really screw up ure character or anything. So one could say in theory that you could level up all jobs to 75 (Maybe take a few years...) But then again you say levelling is indeed slow, which is good since I think games that allow you to level too fast and get the ultimate and whatever so soon, kills the longevity of the game. So nice one SquareEnix

Since i got such a great response, i might as well try to sneak in a few more questions

1. So now i understand the whole job sub job thing, now i was wondering if the "Plan" i mentioned in my previous post, is actually a good plan? Or is it just better to start out with war and just get him to say lvl 30 and then go SAM? I keep hearing people calling monks "The class afraid of getting hit....." So im confused, start with monk then war? Or just start with war?

2. I remember this whole mog house thing, can u really furnish the room? And is it in any way rewarding, or just for those with too much time in their lives?

3. Now im hoping to not being seeing of those typicall WoW players in FF11, the ones that "Yes ure a noob and i wont help u becuase...........ure gay........and undead suck HAHA" Yeah those people always tend to make the game feel worse, and i was just wondering how the general attitude of players in FF11 are? And btw I hear SanD'oria is said to be pretty boring and that one should not start there, eh why not? And what is a good starting point?

4. What are good professions to invest in if one plans to be SAM later on in the game? How useful are they?

5. Just this last one ill squeeze in, Does tetra master contribute in any to FF11? Like giving special items or anything like that?


Once again thank you for that previous great reply i really appreciate, and soon ill be able to play the game (Once i get home from work that is.....)

Thanks

[Jei]

Re: New to game and have some questions

1. it doesn't matter what your plan is. as long as you end up with Sam/war.
You will need war level up yes. And having monk to sub your war is kind of require. But you can play whatever first, no biggie.

2 you can buy furnitures to put in your room yes. You will only see it in your home city tho.

3. Sandoria is actually a very cool place. The forrest right out side is my favourite newbie zone with great music. However, it again doesn't matter because you can always travel to level at any 3 starting cities. Maybe not for your first job, but when you level your second 3rd 4th 5th 100th job it will be easy to travel around.

bad players are everywhere. Ignore them.

4. crafting and jobs aren't really related in this game. Keep them seperate. Do the one that appeals to you. You can start every craft as soon as you like, but better know more about the game and economy before you pick your main craft to go higher with.

5. no. I've never played it ...

Keep in mind, there will be bad days that you may not get party invites after waiting countless hours. Just don't stress over it, know also that you will have good days too. It's just how the game is.

[Nodachi]

Re: New to game and have some questions

3. Sandoria is actually a very cool place. The forrest right out side is my favourite newbie zone with great music. However, it again doesn't matter

Oh, it matters. Those forest zones are amoung my favorite in the game, and have visited each zone. The music still stays with me :D But Jei's right. It doesn't really matter and you can technically try all zones

bad players are everywhere. Ignore them.

Very true, and do so.

[aegina]

Re: New to game and have some questions

avoid sandy? o.O sandy is imo the best starting town in the game! i started in windhurst, then switched to sandy because after playing in both, i thought it was better.

i also don't know what you mean about monks being afraid to get hit. monks have crazy-high hp. getting hit once or twice doesn't hurt them. they just can't tank, because curing all that hp causes mad downtime for the mages.

with crafting, i recommend you not start any crafting until you have at least one job to level 50 or so. the reason is that crafting doesn't really pay off until the higher crafting levels (if then) and usually ends up as nothing more than a massive moneysink. the only jobs i recomend to take up crafts are white mage (cooking. make your own mp recovery drinks) and ranger (make your own arrows.) no other job/craft combo pays off well imo. the best way to make money your first time playing is to farm crystals and sell them on the ah.

[Nemesismo]

Re: New to game and have some questions

Alright thank you all for your responses, now i was wondering about what u said about the "I leveled all my jobs to lvl20", does this mean that a normal War/Mnk both at lvl 20 is lower attribute wise than having all jobs lvl 20? Or would it not make a difference?

[Jei]

Re: New to game and have some questions

sub job will cap 1/2 of main job.
you have 20war, 12monk, 2whm for example. switch them around you'll be
20war/10mnk
20war/2whm
12mnk/6war
12mnk/2whm
2whm/1war
just don't let your sub job goes under-levelled. 20/10 is ok. 20/2 is not

[Nemesismo]

Re: New to game and have some questions

Ok, so would monk be a good start in "my glorious journey" of becoming a samurai? Ive heard like berserk from WAR is very good but that can be attained if i switch jobs at lv 18 to WAR. Well, what do u guys and gals recommend for start if u wanna become sam later?

[aegina]

Re: New to game and have some questions

when i said i levelled all jobs to 20, i meant i did it for fun . you only play two jobs at once, that's your main job and your sub job, (but you may change which job is you current main/sub job at any time.)

war makes an excellent first job, and so does monk. try them both out^^ you got nothing to lose by trying both.

oh yeah, and when you play war, don't use a sword and shield. use an axe, it does more damage. a lot of new war's make that mistake. use either the great axe, or the one-handed axe and a shield, either one is just as good.

edit:

Ok, so would monk be a good start in "my glorious journey" of becoming a samurai? Ive heard like berserk from WAR is very good but that can be attained if i switch jobs at lv 18 to WAR. Well, what do u guys and gals recommend for start if u wanna become sam later?

it sounds like you misunderstand something. when you reach level 18 with your monk, your warrior will still be level one. a job only gains exp when you are playing it as your main job. when you change your job to samurai, you will be a 1 sam/1 war

i recomend you first play monk to 18. then do the quest that makes your subjobs available. go back to your hometown and change your main job to war, and set your sub job to monk. you will now be a 1war/1monk. when you reach level 4 as a warrior, you will be a level 4 warrior, with a level 2 monk subjob. when you reach level 6 as a warrior, you will be a 6 war/ 3 monk.

your sub is always half the level or your main job, but you get all the abilities of that half-levelled sub as you level. a monk learns the ability called "Boost" at level 5, so you will learn that ability when you are a 10 war/5 monk. a warrior learns berserk at 15, so a monk will learn it at level 30 monk/15 warrior.

so anyway, next i recomend you play warrior/monk levels 1-37. when you hit level 30 or so, do the quest that makes the samurai job available and start playing it when your warrior reaches level 37. you may now start leveling samurai to 75.

second edit:
that's why levelling in ffxi takes so long. it's not so much time between levels (until the extreme high levels) so much as the fact you play multiple jobs at once, and must keep them all properly levelled. it's time consuming, but fun^^

[Nemesismo]

Re: New to game and have some questions

Alright, thank you all soooo very much! I cant wait, just 2 more hours before i leave my work and then pick up my game, and then the adventure may begin (Yes i know the updating will delay it a bit but i can live with that =P) But once again thanks!

(Just one final little quick question, what is the usuall time for leveling to lvl 18? Is it better to just solo it or by partying? Thanks!)

[Takemura-san]

Re: New to game and have some questions

1-10 u solo once ur 10 u bravely leave ur city to the dunes (its a good place or a bad place depending on which ppl are playing noobs or veterans) anyways u cant just sub war and take sam straight to 75 depending on the pts after 60 (as sam) they might ask u to sub thf so lv that to 37 too lol i have whm at 37 and sub it to my 75sam on odin an tele ppl lol >-< anyways there will be times when the equips will kill ur wallet lol. well be sure to tell us which server u land in so we could prolly give u more clearer guidance i believe its easier to explain things hands on ya know eh?

EDIT: pfft fergot /rng depending on the pt and if ur a good sam u can pull it off even with the patches

[aegina]

Re: New to game and have some questions

the first time i played, it took me a week to reach level 10. i was playing as a white mage (arguably the slowest job through the first 10 levels) and i had never played any online rpg before, so i really had no idea what i was doing.

once i hit level 10, i started partying, and hit level 18 about 3 days later.

now that i know what i am doing, i can level much, much faster. i can take a job through levels 1-10 in a day easilly (even white mage), and i can get that job to 18 in 2 or 3 days from the time i start playing the job, maybe less if i play a lot during the day.

once when i powergamed, i took 2 jobs to 10 in a day. another time, i took a job through levels 1-30 in a weekend (don't think i'll ever do that again though )

hope that helps^^

[Outlaw]

Re: New to game and have some questions

Hmm... When I first started i leveled War up to 20, then got my subjob quest done. Went back to Sandy(Sandy>Bastok&Windurst) and began leveling my monk with my warrior subjob.

Leveled monk up to 20, switched to thf and got that to 20 as well. Then i took war up to 33 got bored with it and switched to dark knight. I leveled that up to 40 and then went and got Samurai job.

As soon as i became a samurai i knew that was what i wanted to be. The invites are awesome(i get invited even when im not seeking or as soon as i log on) and the job is just plain fun.
And now my samurai is Lvl 56, and I'm still going strong.

Hope things work out for you

[Crode]

Re: New to game and have some questions

MNK and WAR imo are the two easiest jobs to lvl. MNK is a great DD. I love lvling to Sandy to. My gfs MNK at lvl 1 did 11-18 damage an attack to the hares there. MNK has been my quickest lvl up to. I lvled it to 15 no prob. Good luck on whatever u choose to do.