SAM SAM NIN Static? how does that sound?

[Kronosan]

Me and 2 friends have been doing a half-static. Only 3 of us. Originally it looked like we were going to try NIN NIN and a SAM. I, one of the Ninjas, am seduced by Samurai. It always happens. So now we are going to try SAM NIN SAM. We would have to pick up the mages/ support: a BLM, A WHM or SMN, and a RDM or BRD. Towards the end game especially, and I am only talking about EXP Parties btw, seems like two SAMs couldn't lose. BLM could MB and and SAM damage isn't half bad. Do you think this trio is a strong half-static pt? Any SAM's have experience in a Static with another SAM?

[Icemage]

Re: SAM SAM NIN Static? how does that sound?

Don't take this the wrong way, but melees are a dime a dozen most of the time. You're going to have a really tough time trying to fill the entire back line of a party if all you bring is 2 melees and a tank. I've seen several attempts to form static parties without at least one critical backline job (RDM or BRD especially), and the honest truth is that you're no better off than if you weren't in a static party.. less so, even, since you can't just fill an empty slot in a party, but have to wait for a full back line to be available every time you want to go XP.

Should also note that, beyond level 65ish, 2x SAM is not particularly powerful, as it lacks a strong offensive finisher, as well as no easy access to level 3 skillchains.


Icemage

[Nodachi]

Re: SAM SAM NIN Static? how does that sound?

Icemage is right. If you're able to secure a BRD in your static PT howevr, filling the PT ought to be easy and a BRD with your setup would help your performance greatly. Other mages I would recomend would be BLM, to take advantage of the amount of skillchains you can do and MB off them. RDM or WHM, haste will be a great benefit for your PT setup, both for tank and your Samurai.

[Icemage]

Re: SAM SAM NIN Static? how does that sound?

Icemage is right. If you're able to secure a BRD in your static PT howevr, filling the PT ought to be easy and a BRD with your setup would help your performance greatly. Other mages I would recomend would be BLM, to take advantage of the amount of skillchains you can do and MB off them. RDM or WHM, haste will be a great benefit for your PT setup, both for tank and your Samurai.

I'd go one further and say that the optimal setup with such a base configuration would be NIN SAM SAM RDM BLM BRD. That many skillchains is going to put enormous pressure on the BLM, MP-wise (as well as the RDM, if they are MB'ing as well.. which they should be in such a setup).

Trying to find a BRD and a RDM on the spur of the moment every time is likely to be impossible, however.


Icemage

[Intensity]

Re: SAM SAM NIN Static? how does that sound?

I actually do static now with 2 sams, me being one of them and it's a thing of beauty to watch. Our setup is nin/sam/sam/blm/brd/whm. Only downside we've encountered is the nin will have major pressure sometimes to keeps hate pff of us (the 2 sams) I actually prefer whm in this setup to rdm because our brd just got ballad 2, since she can now double ballad our mages we don't need refresh as much. And Erase helps alot when crabs are spamming the STR down AOE. In our case, and i know alot of people won't agree with me on this but Erase > Refresh. If we didn't have a 55 brd itd be a different story, but we do so its not.

[Kronosan]

Re: SAM SAM NIN Static? how does that sound?

thanks for the input, and i think i'm going to do DRk now :D Galka does that one handed ground strike.. That's perfect for my character. He's too tough to use 2 hands. And the strong closers... Drk seems like the right choice.


My friends and I have been doing surprisingly well in terms of finding the support half of our party P_P well... i hope our luck continues

[SquirlyHurley]

Re: SAM SAM NIN Static? how does that sound?

If im not mistaken I think that i remember seeing a Galka do Tachi Gekko while holding the Gkat with 1 hand while he spins. I may be wrong so dont jump on me if it is -_-.

[Anakron]

Re: SAM SAM NIN Static? how does that sound?

If im not mistaken I think that i remember seeing a Galka do Tachi Gekko while holding the Gkat with 1 hand while he spins. I may be wrong so dont jump on me if it is -_-.

Galkans and Female Elvaans do not spin when doing Gekko.

[Blood Red Poet]

Re: SAM SAM NIN Static? how does that sound?

2 SAMs and a BLM(or two!) can do a lot of damage in short time.

[SquirlyHurley]

Re: SAM SAM NIN Static? how does that sound?

Well we dont have many galka sam on our Server but even if they dont spin i still think they hold it with 1 hand

[Icemage]

Re: SAM SAM NIN Static? how does that sound?

I actually do static now with 2 sams, me being one of them and it's a thing of beauty to watch. Our setup is nin/sam/sam/blm/brd/whm. Only downside we've encountered is the nin will have major pressure sometimes to keeps hate pff of us (the 2 sams) I actually prefer whm in this setup to rdm because our brd just got ballad 2, since she can now double ballad our mages we don't need refresh as much. And Erase helps alot when crabs are spamming the STR down AOE. In our case, and i know alot of people won't agree with me on this but Erase > Refresh. If we didn't have a 55 brd itd be a different story, but we do so its not.

Your bard will get access to Erase at level 64, as will your BLM. I don't consider the usage of Erase to outweigh the power, utility and staying power of Refresh in this case. The main reasons to have a WHM late-game are Cure 5, Stona, (Re)Raise II/III, and Teleport Altep/Yhoat/Zvahl, and I don't consider those reasons compelling enough to be worth slotting into a SAM SAM NIN front line.


Icemage

[Hitokami]

Re: SAM SAM NIN Static? how does that sound?

(hmmmm) I am also in a 3 man static with myself (sam) plus a pld and a whm. I like Samurai a lot but I am also very flexible to change classes. In this particular setup what would be a more beneficial class for me to play? or is Sam a good choice?

ps. bard is not an option (i just cant play that class)