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  • #31
    Re: Thf sub... Sneak Attack Kagero?

    yea tru most of the time i only use /thf if need be i like /thf for sata but when it come to the party i could careless and suck it up and use /war sub for thf sata setup( >.> wow 3months eh lol.)
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    • #32
      Re: Thf sub... Sneak Attack Kagero?

      ibroyles is right. Most DD shouldn't sub /THF before lvl 60 imho. I see a lot of lower lvls doing this, especially when SA first becomes available (Garlaige, CN, but not a whole lot after those lvls) and it seems to me that the only reason is because they've got that low lvl fetish for numbers. Sub /WAR and watch your normal hits far outweigh the added SA hits.

      Now back on topic. In all my experience I've never noticed a difference in dmg when I SA elemental WSs, whether it be on my DRK or when I was lvling SAM (although I've never missed an SA + Elemental WS). Maybe it was a fluke. Do some serious testing (which some of the posters seem to have already done) to figure it all out.
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      • #33
        Re: Thf sub... Sneak Attack Kagero?

        SA stacks with all GKT WS, and enhances their damage similarly. SA Kagero and Goten can actually be better than SA enpi in one or two instances when you first ding 30.

        The distinction between SA-able WS and non-SA-able ones are between magical and non-magical WS. Magical WS ignore your attack and can never, ever miss. These are WS like Burning Blade, or Gust Slash, or Thunder Thrust. GKT has no such WS, so all GKT WS are SA'able.
        The rule is, if your WS can miss, it can be SA'd. If it can't, it can't.

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        • #34
          Re: Thf sub... Sneak Attack Kagero?

          true that sam WSes dont miss like others but theres still the small and big str factor that u must factor in like jinpu can do 1k+ on mob A an do 200+ on mob A later on (this is observed without str+ att+ acc+ or any other stats increasing gear or food)
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          • #35
            Re: Thf sub... Sneak Attack Kagero?

            ... What?

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            • #36
              Re: Thf sub... Sneak Attack Kagero?

              I'd like to point out that criticals aren't guaranteed hits by definition or else Mighty Strikes would be godly. I do agree that SA never misses if performed correctly though.

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              • #37
                Re: Thf sub... Sneak Attack Kagero?

                Well Armando its hard to base evidence of criticals not missing by invoking the 2hr, because 2hr's don't exactly follow normal battle-rule guidelines by definition. You do bring up a good point but its still not enough to prove that crits always hit. In all honesty Mighty Strikes would be a little overpowered if it wasn't left with normal accuracy. A good way to test this would be to test if CRIT+% like on some weapons actually ups your accuracy by parsing it. There may have been some tests done on this, but I don't know of any done by the English speaking community nor is my Japanese good enough to understand many of the formulas that are presented on JP only sites.
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                • #38
                  Re: Thf sub... Sneak Attack Kagero?

                  Originally posted by NeoForte
                  SA stacks with all Great Katana WS. So SA + Kagero will work.
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                  • #39
                    Re: Thf sub... Sneak Attack Kagero?

                    theres ur answer lol took awhile eh
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