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  • sub job for sam - summary from japanese sam board

    http://jadore.jp/~ff11/

    this is japanese board about sam. check it out if u can read japanese.

    The best is having war, thf, rng as sub all the time.
    it's the way to play high level sam as japanese experienced character. sometimes they tried sam/drk or sam/mnk for fun.
    U need to consider ur level and PT members to take sub job. Write the sub job and ability u can on search comment, and ask which one is the best for PT when u joined.

    *caution*
    1. do not hope to get PT easily if u don't have sub job as half level of ur main job.
    2. leaders might consider which renkei is the most effecient with thier lvl and mobs when they started to search members. it's not important how u can deal good dmg. keep studying what renkei is the most powerful with MB vs the mob on ur level range. (penta is the worst location on renkei line. it's good with soloing only.)
    3. sam isn't tank or something after 40ish level. let pld nin war do there job.

    - 30/15
    war works as sub normally. but u can make fusion renkei with rng sub at low level. otherwise, u can solo with bow till 24,25 if u have rng sub. - simular dmg with rng

    30/15 - 57/28
    war and thf. but mostly war. cuz u might have PT with thf a lot. they need sharp sub tank to do trick attack and opening renkei. thf can be considered as sub cuz u can use sneak attack from 30 lvl. sneak attack can give 100% hit with ws.(dmg isn't important) samurai misses ws a lot usually...even with high accuracy and mithra race.. elvaan? nuff said.

    57/28 - 60/30
    now u can use sidewinder as rng sub. don't forget distortion is the renkei that can be used in most of PT vs beetle, crab, spider, etc

    60/30 - 65/32
    thf's trick attack is great in this level range. u can set mob's position with opening renkei but sidewinder still good with renkei. u MUST ask which sub will work in ur PT and set it up.

    65/32 - ?
    i am so sorry to say this. only war works after 65. PT members might ask u to 3 lvl renkei only. there is no sub job as warrior to store TP. if u can't believe, just do /sea all sam 70-75. most of them have war as sub, just a few thf.

    it's summary of the sam board on the link. here is none of my opinion. i hope this thread will be helpful with ur journey.

    mithra samurai on odin - Aleta

  • #2
    Good info.

    Out of curiosity i checked last night and all the SAM above 70 were sub WAR, but there was still a SAM/RNG at 75.

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    • #3
      Ok, before I open another thread, since it is somewhat related, I have a question....

      presuming one started samurai by going war/mnk to 30... usually, that'd mean you are sam/war. Nothing wrong with that. Now at level 62, I also level'd thief to 15 for the farming advantages, haven't been in a situation where I would have wanted sneak/trick in a party over warrior sub.....
      But now its time for me to get ranger too. As mentioned above, you should have all 3 if possible.... well then, thief is no issue to quickly get to 37, but ranger....

      How the hell can I raise my bow skill after its 120ish or so at rng 37.... to sidewinder level. I think a few people here have "caught up" their archery skill, mind sharing where and how?

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      • #4
        its called skill up parties, go as your highest job. if leveling bow, sub rng for the ranged accuracy bonuses and shorter firing time. Another trick is to use the fastest weapon you can while skilling up to increase your chances of hitting. My favorite skill up from basically 100-200 is garliage basement. Bats and beetles until about 150, then over/vault weapons or skellies to a little over 200. Note that if you're fighting the skellies you dont want to use bow or spear since they do half damage to them, so if you're in a key party, ask them to fight weapons instead, they also seem to have a better key drop rate.
        MiyamotoMusashi
        Bastok Missions completed
        Zilart Missions completed

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        • #5
          Why is it necessary to have thief subjob? Just for SA opening ws?

          Mangotaru on Midgardsormr

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          • #6
            I dont mean to offend but what is with all these titles after everyones post?

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