self-chain with meditate

[ricesteam]

I've read/heard that it is possible...but there are no details on how to do it correctly.

I can never get the next 100tp in time...

How is this accomplished?

Thanks

[tomc1988t]

set macro with weapon skill wait 1 meditate weapon skill...i think thats how you do it....but i dont know the macro command anymore

[Loc]

Basicaly, all you have to do is wait until you get 100% TP then hit Meditate, then immediately after do your WS, wait and let the 100% TP charge and pop another WS in the mob's ass, and of course getting the Second 100% in 3 seconds is the problem, and you can usually only do that if you have mad haste on you, or you are taking hits and regaining TP from dmg taken.

[Seulgaist]

The other good way to self-renkei is if the first WS you use is a 2-hitter. If both hit then thats at least 24% back, and that's a good start in getting 100%.

[ricesteam]

What I found is that I tend to miss alot (I have +8 dex), which contributes to why I can't get 100tp in time.

But, what about the weapon delay? Do they make a difference? ie. is the dif. btwn 420 and 450 noticable?

[Geo]

I was damn close to a double. But the stupid DRK wanted to commit suicide (Souleater + Slice).
SOB threw me off -_-

[shaftscaliber]

Im having the same problem as the original poster. I was excited when I got 30 because I thought I could self renkei...but no luck so far. I dont see how you can get !00% tp back in time for the second enpi. And that macro up top doesnt work :\ If you put meditate too close after enpi it just says "cannot using job ability" (or something along those lines, I dont remember exactly).

I think you have to time it so right after your first enpi, you hit normal to get 13 back, then med...+26 from 2 hits of enpi...that's 39...so as long as med gives u back 61 then u can enpi again (and if mob hits you it'll be a little less). So I see how it's possible...but i dont think its something you can do over and over every 3 mins (at least I dont think I can hehe)

[Kyoujin]

Here's the macro.
/ja "Meditate" <me>
/wait 1
/ws "(enpi or jinpu)" <t>

In order for this to work you must score at least 3 hits before the second WS. Usually two from the first WS and another while meditate charges.

[ricesteam]

Thanks for all your tips.

I got it to work, but only once.

First step. I was the tank.
Second. I timed it so as soon as a the initial enpi hits (must be 2hit) I get in an attack.
Third. All my attacks there after lands.

Took about 4-5 sec to get that 100tp and chained with another enpi.

I didnt use macros.

I'm pretty satisfied that I pulled it off. But I'm going to stop this little Samurai skill until i reach 50. i think its better to renkei as a group, unless you want to show off (which wont get u much applause). I just wish square will continue to fix up the SAM. We need some high-level skills to look forward to!

[theevilmoney002]

heh, no worries. SAMs can usualy get it to work untill about lv.50 when you get store TP lv.3
I havnt done it with Enpi yet, but I can do it with Jinpu without even taking hits. ^^

just get about 97% TP more is good too, use meditate, quickly get your WS, with enpi or jinpu you will get about 40% back when the animation is finished, then all you gota do is wait about 2 or 3 seconds and do it again. its very easy actualy ^^

[shaftscaliber]

hehe, yeah I used the macro mentioned above and it works beautifully : Thanks a lot!!! Of course it took me 3 seperate tries because after the first enpi I missed :X

But it does work and it's good stuff!

[krycis]

Another thing: don't wait for the TP gauge to fill back to 100%. Once you see it at ~80%, start mashing your next weaponskill. I found that if I started to hit the macro for the next skill @84% I'd usually get the renkei.
[list=1][*]Get to 100%[*]Start Meditate[*]Immediately fire off Enpi[*]At 84% start mashing Enpi or Kagero[/list=1]

Usually after the first Enpi I'd have 46% TP already. With my Homura timing is crucial, the slower speed of your attacks can affect the self-renkei greatly. I had less problems with a 450dly weapons.

Good luck!

[Potsnu]

It is very important that you get 1 normal hit in between the renkei. How this can be done is very simple.

1) Wait till you have done a normal swing. Count to 4 seconds (a bit earlier to be safe, taking into account haste + food). This will ensure that you swing right after WS

2) Use Meditate

3) Use WS

4) You should have done a normal swing. Hopefully you got both hits of Enpi

5) Use WS

[John Crichton]

Here is what I do:

Get 100% TP

Use Meditate (so that it's charging in time)

Use Enpi

Use Jump

Use Enpi

Insta chain... once I get to 32 i can use Kagero.

This only works well if i don't miss, but I blew alot of money on dex+ items and acc+ items, so I am alot better than usual.

[GuyIncognito8]

i self chain all the time, its not that hard except for that fact that you cant miss at all

once you have around 80 tp, low 80s are best, use med then keep mashing enpi until it goes through. If both enpi hit connect and you hit your other attack after that you should get the tp you need to self chain.

theres no point to self chaining though, other than for fun or soloing

this can be done with just lvl 2 tp store since im only lvl 37