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  • #16
    Subbing THF may give you more AGI, but it still doesn't let you hit faster. =P There is no correlation between sub job choice and how fast your main job hits (unless you sub MNK and use Grapples because Martial Arts is the only passive ability in the game that decreases attack speed).

    So what Miyamoto meant to say was, "There is no way you can be level 70 and think subbing THF affects attacking speed."
    WAR20 MNK12 WHM28 BLM31 RDM60 THF21 PLD14 DRK20 BST6 BRD42 RNG16 SAM11 NIN40 DRG10 SMN10

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    • #17
      bleh, i am a lvl 70

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      • #18
        maxim, dual weild is a passive, and decreases attack speed )

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        • #19
          ya when u use dual wield. whats the point of telling us that?
          Kenshin of Valefor

          Hitting people in four spots with a stick.
          Thats Kendo!
          It'll just take you 20 years to learn to do it right.
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          • #20
            Mainly I play THF, and there are alot of noobs so I will hold off leveling my warrior.

            But Sneak+Enpi is great as SAM+Thief, since the Sneak ensures both hits from Enpi hits.

            I did 327 DMG Sneak+Enpi in CNest yesterday in what i consider PT nirvana.

            SAM,SAM,WHM,WHM,WAR,BRD

            The Enpi caused a 177 PT distortion which is pretty good against worker crawlers... Just a matter of how you use the Sub.
            60 THF, 44 SAM, 22 NIN, 44 RNG, 13 MNK, 11 WHM

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            • #21
              sneak only garuntees the first hit in multihit WS, so you can still miss the second hit while subbing thf.
              MiyamotoMusashi
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              • #22
                Originally posted by shinox
                bleh, i am a lvl 70
                Yeah i'm not doubting you or anything >.> but i wouldn't mind seeing a screen of this.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by shinox


                  Yah ur right and sam/thf is still not bad as a combo, that surely gives more agi and u hit faster...
                  wtf are you talking about!? since when does THF sub abilities affect the speed of hits? like Nodachi I don't doubt ur lvl but I doubt ur knowledge of the game :O Triple Attack only kicks in at lvl 55 and well the Lvl cap is 75....
                  Kenshin of Valefor

                  Hitting people in four spots with a stick.
                  Thats Kendo!
                  It'll just take you 20 years to learn to do it right.
                  __________________
                  Level Does Not = Skill!
                  Level = Knowledge

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                  • #24
                    From my experiences (i'm only level 38), thief sub is helpful, but I think there are better subs out there until level 60. Post 60 I can see the thief sub working out better as some of these high damage dealers attract a little too much hate and would love giving it to a paladin/trick buddy.
                    55 Thief/war...working on a redmage under the guidance of da great xerlaoth

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