RDM in Campaign

[Mezlo]

So my rdm is 71 and ive been looking at an equipment setup for being able to solo mobs in campaign. I've been looking at a +haste build and then in slot where i don't ahve the +haste option going with - damage equipment. There's so much -dmg equipment, but I don't see amny people going with the +haste and -damage build. Why not in campaign? The only reasoning I would not go with -dmg gear is if i cant get hate, but just on my 71 rdm, i was able to grab hate so I'm thinking it won't be much of a problem once i hit 75. The gear I'm looking at once I hit 75:

Joyeuse
Genbu's Shield -10 dmg taken
Walahra Turban +5% haste (when meleeing, why are rdm's using AF? Relic, ok you get refresh, but are you really using that much mp???)
I'm open for suggestions in ammo slot, i've been using the +2 int and 10 mp thing
Bull Necklace +25 strength, hell yeah! If i'm missing i'll use chivalrous chain
Ethereal Earring
Suppamomi spelling?
Goliard Saio +4% haste
Dusk Gloves +3% haste
Patronous Ring -10% physical damage taken
Jelly Ring -5% physical damage taken
Cheviot Cape -5% physical damage taken
Swift Belt +4% haste
ASA RDM legs - i'm looking at +3% haste -4% damage reduction
Dusk feet - +2% haste

So this would give me haste in every slot i could get it (i'm not subbing drg) totaling +21% haste. The damage reduction totals -34% physical damage. I can't think of a more badass setup. If I went /dnc with drain samba II, Phalynx on, and regen up, I'm thining I would be able to give it a while before needing to cast a Cure spell. not needing to cast Cure often, and having a haste build with Joyeuse and an Enspell II should accumulate a good deal of damage. There has to be something I'm missing though because I never see RDM in campaign with a haste build, they are typically meleeing in an AF or relic setup. Depending on how much damage this - physical damage setup mitigates, I might even be able to go /drk for more attack power and LR and SE. On top of that, once i hit 75, rdm gets phalynx II and slow/para II, which would decrease the amount of damage i'd get over time even more... I invested in the +15% macc ammo piece to make sure those enfeebles stick.

Sooo... that's my game plan. Again my question is, are there holes in this setup? Why aren't more, or for that matter, any rdm's taking this approach?

[Evion]

Re: RDM in Campaign

Hope THIS or THIS helps.

[Mezlo]

Re: RDM in Campaign

Not really. I'm looking for a discussion and opinions not how campaign allied notes are accrued.

[LadyKiKi]

Re: RDM in Campaign

You're fine, go have fun.

As for why others aren't doing so, perhaps maybe:

1. Lazy
2. No room for more gear
3. Prefer to backline
4. Doesn't want to pay attention
5. Cheap
6. lolcampaign; no one really cares so they just go do it and the outcome doesn't matter for them

Depends on your server though.

[Mezlo]

Re: RDM in Campaign

You're fine, go have fun.

As for why others aren't doing so, perhaps maybe:

4. Doesn't want to pay attention

This made me lol...

[LadyKiKi]

Re: RDM in Campaign

It's serious though, if you want to "semi afk" or look away, i.e. to watch TV or if you're playing use the game's Windowed mode, looking elsewhere, you just kinda want to be smacking things and not really tank

IF I'm doing it this way, I will smack things and heal other people/NPCs where possible, and that's pretty much it.

On Orcs, I will attempt to stand in front of them so they will counter my attacks (so I get hurt); if not tanking.




Otherwise, the gear is pretty much solid. About the +25 STR item, I think you're fine with that, accuracy wise the campaign mobs are about level 60 so you'll pretty much never miss. Enfeebling's the same, you'll probably stick it no problem, so if you're serious you might as well grab the Waltz potency ammo; if you're subbing DNC.

Last thing, Phalanx II is only good for other party members, you do not recieve any, or much benefit casting on yourself, aside from the extra minute or 3 minute duration if under composure. Phalanx caps at 30 damage while Phalanx 2 caps at 29. Depending on your Enhancing Skill too. Check the wiki for Phalanx and Phalanx II entries.

[Ketaru]

Re: RDM in Campaign

Not really. I'm looking for a discussion and opinions not how campaign allied notes are accrued.

Well, if you want my opinion, I continue to fail to see the appeal of /DNC for jobs that can already heal themselves. We talk of tanking, but most people only think about the "Not taking damage" part of tanking and not the "Holding hate from others" part of it. That's why I'm, I'm beginning to suspect, the people who always drag mobs far away from the fort are always /DNCs. They couldn't get the points for taking damage if they actually had to compete with somebody else for the mob's attention (and when I say "compete", I mean against somebody else who is actively trying to get hate on mobs)

As for why RDMs are not seen wearing much real melee gear in Campaign, I suspect that most simply don't care. Nobody is going to judge their worth as a player by how they do in Campaign. If they're seen holding level 55 swords at level 75, nobody is going to to write them off as a RDM not to invite to a party, though, to me, they are certainly an eye sore.

[Yellow Mage]

Re: RDM in Campaign

As for why RDMs are not seen wearing much real melee gear in Campaign, I suspect that most simply don't care. Nobody is going to judge their worth as a player by how they do in Campaign. If they're seen holding level 55 swords at level 75, nobody is going to to write them off as a RDM not to invite to a party, though, to me, they are certainly an eye sore.

Oh yes indeed, they are very much eyesores. RDMs using Death Blossom in Royal Redingotes . . . with Fast Cast and MAB on them. /facepalm

[ShepardG]

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Oh yes indeed, they are very much eyesores. RDMs using Death Blossom in Royal Redingotes . . . with Fast Cast and MAB on them. /facepalm

So true, unfortunately, they also tend to do that in parties alot also. and by "that" i mean not gear swaping at all.

[Yellow Mage]

Re: RDM in Campaign

So true, unfortunately, they also tend to do that in parties alot also.

The only reason I have to doubt this statement is that I doubt these kinds of Red Mages can get in to parties at all.

Then again, there are some equally stupid people who see "Ooh, this guy's a Red Mage. MERIPO TIEM!!1!"

[Ketaru]

Re: RDM in Campaign

Oh yes indeed, they are very much eyesores. RDMs using Death Blossom in Royal Redingotes . . . with Fast Cast and MAB on them. /facepalm

That they even have Death Blossom is what should be the shocker. Weaponskills are actually things you have to take time out to work on!

[Vevau]

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RDM does campaign pretty well as the abovelinked posts refer.

Since the mobs won't offer much in the way of an accuracy prolbem, only def and HP then haste and attack are the way forward, although the defensive option is certainly a good Oshi button I have little difficulty keeping SS up for 2 minutes at a time whilst being battered by Orcs wearing:

Misericorde | Tortoise Shield | | Morion Tathlum
Walahra | Chiv Chain | Spike | Spike
SH | Dusk | Sniper's | Garrulous
Amemet | Potent | Vendor's | Warlock's

(Yes, I know its a cheap option set but I need to save my gil for HQ staves and other actually useful toys for rdm and blm)

Of course since the advent of Composure and Phalanx lasting more than what feels like a few seconds the measly MP I have as an Elvaan doesn't matter since I will Refresh up plenty of MP before buffs fall.

It is also probably a waste for rdm (and possibly pld) going /dnc since we are effective at healing under fire (Aquaveil, often forgotten but very useful!) therefore RR from whm is my usual choice. If going somewhere with kind mages around then a friend of mine swears by /pld but I like /drk (Souleater Evisceration ftw).

Also, if you are going /dnc remember you cannot stack Samba with Enspell and using Joyeuse Enspell IIs become less effective since they only proc on first hit.

[Mezlo]

Re: RDM in Campaign

Also, if you are going /dnc remember you cannot stack Samba with Enspell and using Joyeuse Enspell IIs become less effective since they only proc on first hit.

2 things:

1. huh? drain samba and enspell II dont stack?

2. I dont see how enspell II becomes "less effective" because it only procs on the first hit. Since it's a double attack, you don't lose downtime on the second attack, it just procs on the first attack and the second attack is just additional damage.

[Vevau]

Re: RDM in Campaign

Only one additional effect works at any time.

Therefore sch/rdms really annoy dnc by AoEing an enspell since (once again trusting my memory as its late) the first of:

Enspell > Samba > Weapon added effect (eg Garuda's Dagger)

Is the only one which will activate.

If /dnc is for the cheap cures and you are not getting decent WS damage out of your Joyeuse then the balance probably favours /dnc and Joy, but for DoT a dagger and Enspell II should edge it out.

Unfortunately I'm sleepy so I shall leave it to Armando to correct me.

[ShepardG]

Re: RDM in Campaign

I was about to suggest that actually, Rdm with a Blau Dolch, and a Brutal Earring, probably over a Joy toy. I would go with the following build For TPing.

Blau || Genbu Shield || Ranged/ammo see Note1

Walahra Turban|| PCC or some other Melee Oriented Neck piece || Brutal earring || Hollow or Ethereal if you have it

Goliard Saio|| Dusk Gloves || Torreador's || Raja's

Chuculain's Mantle || Velocious or Swift Belt || Nashira,Pahluwan,Oily,Prince's slops || Dusk Ledelsens

Of course this is an expensive TP set, but this is what I would Melee in.

I've started to use spellcast, and I think my RDM will be the next .xml file I work on, and i'm dreading it, because RDM is so diverse, with MND builds, and TP builds, and /NIN builds, and Kite Builds, and Fast cast builds, and INT builds and Enfeebling Build vs. Potency build and WS builds ... /sigh

anyway, most campaign mobs arent that difficult to land enfeebles on, so you probably won't need to macro in too much Enfeeble+ gear. Some cure potency or healing skill gear swaps might be nice, for spaming on the NPC's. Nice thing about using a dagger is if for some reason you run out of MP you can WS it back. Also Evisceration is probably a rdm's best WS for dmg wise.