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  • #31
    Re: Up in Arms

    Ok well I haven't counted my casts, but the trick is to bring Meds, because otherwise, you spend too much time curing and healing.

    But I have a screenshot of me beating it with me BRD friend. He contributed by sleeping it during the home stretch, and hitting me with Ballad and cures.

    So idk. I need to work on my kiting, because I shouldn't be getting as damaged as much as I do.

    But he's not "Hard" per se, the only thing is the time constraints.
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    • #32
      Re: Up in Arms

      This sounds like fun, maybe I'll give it a try when/if I get some decent nuking gear.
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      • #33
        Re: Up in Arms

        So no, I haven't soloed it, henceforth, I'm still not satisfied, but at least I can keep duoing till I can afford decent gear, lol
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        • #34
          Re: Up in Arms

          Originally posted by ShepardG View Post
          Aight, I'll post my strat, that I'm gonna try when I get home in a few weeks.

          Enter Fight on probably Ice day.

          Run up- Sleep
          Yag drink
          -CHAINSPELL-
          protect III
          stoneskin
          phalanx
          blink
          thunder II
          Blizzard II
          thunder II
          Blizzard II
          Stoneskin
          phalanx
          Thunder II
          Blizzard II
          etc. until MP is around 100, then pop a Vile Elixir +1
          Continue Nuking until Chainspell ends or
          Until MP is around 150
          Sleep
          stoneskin
          phalanx
          -CONVERT-
          Gravity
          Bind
          -Burn
          -Shock
          -Rasp
          -Poison II
          -Bio II

          Kite, Blink, Refresh, Kite, Stoneskin, Kite, Phalanx, Kite, etc.

          Hopefully, That will be enough damage to let the DoT's do most of the final work to the Mob.

          any thoughts?
          Why open with sleep? Wasted sleep.
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          • #35
            Re: Up in Arms

            There used to be half a dozen videos on stage6 of no med solos of this BC by rdm/blms, so I don't know why there's this attitude that it can't be done. /sch is probably even better now that it's available. Here are a couple vid links to successful runs I dug up just now. Forgive me that I didn't review them to see what items they used, but I've gotta run to work.

            Btw, why VE during chainspell instead of Convert? Lesson 1 from Avesta BC solos is to burn your convert as early in the fight as possible so that it's available a second time near the end of the fight.

            [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdeEYjVDP1E"]YouTube - FFXI: Up In Arms Solo (RDM)[/ame]

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            • #36
              Re: Up in Arms

              Well shut my mouth. I bet that cost her a good chunk of money though to do that. Even so that's impressive, I really didn't think RDM could get in enough damage within 14 minutes (I say 14 because you still need time to pop the chest >.>)

              and yay for "PRIDE" ^^
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              • #37
                Re: Up in Arms

                Kiki,

                Your right, I was thinking back to my maat fight, I used this strategy to fight him, but I opened with sleep so he couldn't buff as much. But yeah, this BCNM sleep wouldn't be needed.

                TM,

                I'd use the VE +1 cause it restores 50% to both MP and HP, and I'm pretty sure I'd have taken some dmg at this time, because I wouldn't be kiting, I'd be standing there straight nuking and getting slapped in the face. With convert My HP would drop dangerously low. I'm guessing I'd get probably 4 extra chainspell nukes off with the VE, so a total of almost another 1000HP of the mob.

                I'm Elvaan and at lvl 60, a rough estimate of my gear would look something like this. (forgive me, I haven't been on Martain in like 6 months, and I don't have alot of this gear but this would be ideal If my research is correct)

                Head-Chapeau

                Neck-Enlightened Chain

                Ear1-Astral Earring, swapped forMoldavite,swapped forEnfeebling Earring,

                Ear2-Anti-Venom Earring, [SIZE="1"]swapped for[/SIZE="1"]Wizard's Earring,

                Body-Tabard, swapped forVermillion cloak when kiting

                Hands-Probably Magna Gauntlets for the +1 Int and +10 more MP over the Warlock gloves

                Ring1-Serket, swapped forGenius ring+4Int, swapped forSerenity ring+4Mnd

                Ring2-Ether Ring,swapped forGenius ring+4Int, swapped forSerenity ring+4Mnd

                Back-Intesifiying Cape, ,swapped forRed Cape +1

                Waist-Forrest Stone, ,swapped forPenitent's Rope

                Legs-Warlock Tight's

                Feet-Magna M Ledelsen's

                Try to get back to this setup with my convert macro, but use the Extra MP for buffs and gravity, bind, etc.

                Elemental Staffs, Bugard Strap +1, Morion Thalaum

                I would hope I could get my Nukes to do 240-250. It might be hard thought with my low INT....

                At that point you'd need to get off aprox 18 Nukes to bring his HP below 10-15%

                +304 MP, before swap's...(1 MP merit)
                So 696MP before Food.

                Pop a Crimson Jelly and your looking at 779MP

                Cast:
                pro3
                Haste
                SS
                Phalanx
                Blink
                Yagudo Drink
                You'll have 623MP to activate Chainspell and start nuking with Blizzard II you'll get off exactly 8 nukes, If you Pop a VE +1 at this point you'll get back close to 350MP. which would be another 4 Nukes So that's a total of 12 nukes right there.

                at this point I'd have around 50ish MP. I'd Bind/Gravity (hopefully chainspell is still active. Can you get off 14 spells durning CS?) Move as far away as possible, Convert, should be back to around 740MP if I set my macro up properly, and I have enough HP at this point (hopefully the VE +1 gave me something like 500ish HP).
                So re-buff SS,Phalanx,Blink(70MP) + Cure IV X2 (176MP) = 246

                rounding up and down genorusly 700MP-250=450
                450/77= 5.8 blizzard II's

                So's at this point you should have hit ole' boy for something around 16 times. if you avg. 200HP a nuke that's 3200hp.

                Now the wiki says he has 7000-7500HP and if that's the case, I don't see this strategy working. If it's around 4500-4800 then I think you could finish him with DoT's and maybe a 2-3 nukes at the end, when you can convert again.
                At this point he shouldn't have been sleept any, and if he's low enough, you can let your DoT's wear, and sleep II him, and Convert.

                I know my math is sorta ugly, so incase you were going to make fun of me, I've included this picture of a giraffe.
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                • #38
                  Re: Up in Arms

                  Why get smacked in the face when you can open with Gravity? Taking hits deliberately is not only dangerous, it's mp inefficient. Even with chainspell there's enough time between casting animations to take a couple steps and keep yourself out of melee range, so there's no reason not to play it safe.

                  Watch the Veoh link. That's a hume rdm wearing full AF clearing the fight in 13:44. I may have missed it but I believe she used no meds. Ancillary equipment: Vermy, Moldy, Insomnia, Uggy(?), Tamas (+4 +4 and +25 at level 60), Balrahns, Red Cape +1, Penitent's Rope, some HQ staves, Aquilo and Jupiter among them. Couple nice pieces in there but nothing that I feel is such a gamebreaker that another conscientiously geared rdm wouldn't be comparable other than perhaps the Vermy and HQ staves.

                  Strategy is to open with Gravity, Chainspell nuke, Convert, burn through your 2nd mp bar as quickly as possible (she even goes so far as to cycle in Fire II after Chainspell wears), then sleep it and rest, pecking at it with whatever mp you regain until Convert is back up. I really don't think this is out of reach for any cool-headed rdm with decent gear and kiting skill.

                  ---------- Post added at 08:16 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:54 PM ----------

                  My bad, watched again and she does use one item ... a persikos au lait.
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                  • #39
                    Re: Up in Arms

                    Originally posted by Taskmage View Post
                    My bad, watched again and she does use one item ... a persikos au lait.
                    Sometimes you just need a good drink for that extra (Boost)!

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                    • #40
                      Re: Up in Arms

                      Sorry if this is in the video (can't view it at work) but isnt it better to chainspell drain instead of nuke?
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                      • #41
                        Re: Up in Arms

                        No because drain has a higher chance of getting resisted as opposed to our nukes due to huge disparity in skill level at 60.
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                        • #42
                          Re: Up in Arms

                          Which is why I suggest /sch. Dark arts would bring both our dark magic skill and elemental skill up to a B+ rating. On paper /sch should be better than /blm other than for ES-Gravity, but Alacrity-Gravity might be just as well.
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                          • #43
                            Re: Up in Arms

                            Do you think that a well equipped Blu with Yag drinks could solo this? Like I've said, I duo with Rng and a Gravity job, but I'm wondering if a Rdm can solo this if a Blu can (with Yag drinks and maybe some ethers of course.)

                            On another note, I just saw a SS of a Taru Blu that soloed Sheep in Antlion's Clothing. I'm thinking of trying that once I finish my Blu merits. The least I've done that ENM with has been 3 people so far, but I think it might be possible if fully meritted, yag drinks, Opo necklace+Sleep pots. He may have also gotten lucky with the pops and only gotten the NM too.

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                            • #44
                              Re: Up in Arms

                              If there's a DD that can solo it, I'd say BLU would be it.

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