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  • #76
    Not an RDM myself..

    I'm not an RDM myself, but I recruit PTs quite often. I can vouch for RDM's usefulness from that alone. They cast faster than either WHM or BLM due to the update on level 15 JA Fast Cast. They have the highest weakening skill in the game: which means that their debuff spells (previously listed) have a better chance of landing if they skill up properly. ^^ Most of the caster advice here is perfect. I have recently made samurai my main and my best friend Tayko, she has become RDM as she always wanted. As you can see in my sig, I play mostly fighters. So, what I will add here, is WS information for RDM. It is something to be aware of, but I will simply state up front that RDM is ?Ô–‚“¹Žm or Red Magic Master. They are primarily a mage. This information is for completeness of understanding this job. Likely it will not be useful in a PT of 6 for leveling up. (However, attacking is fairly useful to Tayko when she and I play in 2 person PT ^^)

    RDM is weak not only because of weapon skill grade - they also have Ex on only a few weapons.. and No Ex2 from what I can see. Skill grade determines the maximum skill you can have per level. Ex means belonging to a certain MJ or SJ. Ex2 means MJ only. This website:

    http://www.ausystem.org/~aushacho/gbox/ff/skill.html

    will show you the grades, Ex, and Ex2 for each weapon skill, evade skill, and magic skill. From you can see that RDM, will get no level 200 WS (many of which are fairly powerful). They may not get 225 WS, so far their skill is not high enough. They are only Ex on dagger which can get them the Energy Steal WS, that may or may not be useful (perhaps Jei can answer that). Their highest grade weapons are dagger and 1h sword. Add to this that in the expansion they have received a level 68 rare 1h sword, Enhance Sword - it is fairly powerful from the stats I have seen (It is RDM only, I have used that sword mages in FFV haha).

    In short, this knowledge wasn't really detailed here, so I thought I would add it. (Hi, shar~ Yes, she is also my friend ^^). You are mage foremost, and PT will look for you as mage from 20 onward. As for race, mithra and hume are both fairly equal as far as casting mithra has slightly less MND. Otherwise, mithra is perfect for RDM, as is hume (Tayko is a mithra~ ^^). Taru will do fine. Elf can make it. ^^ (Just look at shar~ all big and level 40 now ^^) Galka would be an extreme challenge.. haha Well, hope this was worth the 20-30 minutes it took to type haha ^^
    戦士:75 モンク:75 白魔道士:36 黒魔道士:37 赤魔道士:7 シーフ:57
    ナイト:7 暗黒騎士:39 狩人:7 吟遊詩人:7 獣使い:7 侍:62
    忍者:37 竜騎士:7 召喚士:63 青魔道士:26 コルセア:8 からくり士:7

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    • #77
      thanks reihn

      thanks reihn for that post and that link can you put that in the links section for me thanks.
      riesa
      It's Official Promathia Hates me....
      それは公式である,プロマシア は私を憎む。
      Trielは博雅なる大召喚士
      A Summoners Journey (The Live Journal) >>>> A Summoners Journey the Movie

      BecomingThe Movie: The tale of the Journey of a Blue Mage

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      • #78
        Reihn >> nice website thanks ^^ I book mark it now.
        there's no EX or EX2 for the 225 skill :sweat: I truely hope my RDM would be able to use that....

        im still using fast blade and burning blade at level 65 lol... my friends kinda teasing me about that :D
        There are painters who transform the sun into a yellow spot,
        but there are others who with the help of their art and their intelligence
        transform a yellow spot into the sun.

        - Pablo Picasso

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        • #79
          Hehe, yeah, I noticed that Red Mages don't get too many weapon skills either. I use Fast Blade, Burning Blade, and occasionally Shine Blade when I feel like looking at a new WS animation. >.> I checked that website a while back as well, and Red Mages don't have any weapons that are skill level A. ;_;
          WAR20 MNK12 WHM28 BLM31 RDM60 THF21 PLD14 DRK20 BST6 BRD42 RNG16 SAM11 NIN40 DRG10 SMN10

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          • #80
            Just thought of something else to add..

            I don't remember if I read it earlier in the thread.. If so then it is redundant, but I will add a little info on SJ JA for RDM. Personally, I am of the opinion that BLM is the best SJ fastest. It gets Clear Mind JA at 15 and MP Consumption JA at 20. WHM gets Clear Mind at 20 and Auto-Regen at 25.. The Sign of the Goddess is better I think than the Sign of the Spirits.. but the dejeon and later Renzokuma+Escape trick are worth it. Also, your Regen spell is much more powerful than Auto-Regen. What this essentially means is:

            /BLM - you get Clear Mind at 30 and MP Consumption at 40 RDM

            /WHM - you get Sign of the Goddess at 30, Clear Mind at 40 and Auto-Regen at 50 RDM

            For pure outright casting, BLM is better earlier. It will save you some MP at 40 and it will let you fill MP faster earlier. Both SJ have their use, but if your playtime is limited I recommend BLM SJ.

            Before I go I'd like to add a totally unrelated question Does anyone know if there is a website that lists all of the Samurai 2h katana WS? My site lists the names and skill reqs but not the TP effects and damage type (number of hits/elemental) etc. If so I'd really appreciate it ^^ I'd like to know if I get a 4-5 hit WS haha ^^ Thanks for helping me if ya know one ^^
            戦士:75 モンク:75 白魔道士:36 黒魔道士:37 赤魔道士:7 シーフ:57
            ナイト:7 暗黒騎士:39 狩人:7 吟遊詩人:7 獣使い:7 侍:62
            忍者:37 竜騎士:7 召喚士:63 青魔道士:26 コルセア:8 からくり士:7

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            • #81
              heya reihn

              heres a link to a japanese website for samurai
              i got there from this site elemens.
              its a avery nice nice to be on for all types of info.
              http://jadore.jp/~ff11/samurai.html samurai site
              enjoy
              elemens link is in the red mage link section
              It's Official Promathia Hates me....
              それは公式である,プロマシア は私を憎む。
              Trielは博雅なる大召喚士
              A Summoners Journey (The Live Journal) >>>> A Summoners Journey the Movie

              BecomingThe Movie: The tale of the Journey of a Blue Mage

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              • #82
                Seems like the best place to discuss this..heh..lots of people who ARE RDM or are INTERESTED in playing RDM read this thread.

                Got my AF sword the other night. Haven't actually had a chance to use it for whackin' yet, just wearing it around. I was wondering how long I'll likely continue to use this sword? I mean, it's 24 levels out from the cap, which makes it seem like maybe I'd want to eventually upgrade. But yet, it's also got some quite useful stats (not to mention looking pretty cool haha). Would be interested in hearing thoughts on this, particularly from Jei & Maxim, then BeenThereDoneThat RDMs.
                召75|吟75|黒75|赤75|戦72|白60|獣40|忍37| 暗37|シ37|ナ32|侍30|モ30|竜21|青14||か8| 狩7|コ7
                San D'oria: Rank 10 | Windurst: Rank 10 | Bastok: Rank 10 | Cooking: 97 | Zilart - Completed | CoP - Completed

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                • #83
                  Seems like the best place to discuss this..heh..lots of people who ARE RDM or are INTERESTED in playing RDM read this thread.

                  Got my AF sword the other night. Haven't actually had a chance to use it for whackin' yet, just wearing it around. I was wondering how long I'll likely continue to use this sword? I mean, it's 24 levels out from the cap, which makes it seem like maybe I'd want to eventually upgrade. But yet, it's also got some quite useful stats (not to mention looking pretty cool haha). Would be interested in hearing thoughts on this, particularly from Jei & Maxim, then BeenThereDoneThat RDMs.
                  召75|吟75|黒75|赤75|戦72|白60|獣40|忍37| 暗37|シ37|ナ32|侍30|モ30|竜21|青14||か8| 狩7|コ7
                  San D'oria: Rank 10 | Windurst: Rank 10 | Bastok: Rank 10 | Cooking: 97 | Zilart - Completed | CoP - Completed

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                  • #84
                    Seems like the best place to discuss this..heh..lots of people who ARE RDM or are INTERESTED in playing RDM read this thread.

                    Got my AF sword the other night. Haven't actually had a chance to use it for whackin' yet, just wearing it around. I was wondering how long I'll likely continue to use this sword? I mean, it's 24 levels out from the cap, which makes it seem like maybe I'd want to eventually upgrade. But yet, it's also got some quite useful stats (not to mention looking pretty cool haha). Would be interested in hearing thoughts on this, particularly from Jei & Maxim, then BeenThereDoneThat RDMs.
                    召75|吟75|黒75|赤75|戦72|白60|獣40|忍37| 暗37|シ37|ナ32|侍30|モ30|竜21|青14||か8| 狩7|コ7
                    San D'oria: Rank 10 | Windurst: Rank 10 | Bastok: Rank 10 | Cooking: 97 | Zilart - Completed | CoP - Completed

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                    • #85
                      Seems like the best place to discuss this..heh..lots of people who ARE RDM or are INTERESTED in playing RDM read this thread.

                      Got my AF sword the other night. Haven't actually had a chance to use it for whackin' yet, just wearing it around. I was wondering how long I'll likely continue to use this sword? I mean, it's 24 levels out from the cap, which makes it seem like maybe I'd want to eventually upgrade. But yet, it's also got some quite useful stats (not to mention looking pretty cool haha). Would be interested in hearing thoughts on this, particularly from Jei & Maxim, then BeenThereDoneThat RDMs.
                      召75|吟75|黒75|赤75|戦72|白60|獣40|忍37| 暗37|シ37|ナ32|侍30|モ30|竜21|青14||か8| 狩7|コ7
                      San D'oria: Rank 10 | Windurst: Rank 10 | Bastok: Rank 10 | Cooking: 97 | Zilart - Completed | CoP - Completed

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                      • #86
                        i carry that sword all the way till 60 and use it in PT for MP bonus the sword itself slashes very fast too so quite nice to use it to up skill. after 60 I became too lazy to carry it anymore so it just stays in my mog house ever since.

                        I also bought the level 55 sword and use it when I solo for money. Was using it till 65 until i bought my new golden sword :D
                        (these 2 swords I posted >> =here= )
                        ^^
                        There are painters who transform the sun into a yellow spot,
                        but there are others who with the help of their art and their intelligence
                        transform a yellow spot into the sun.

                        - Pablo Picasso

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                        • #87
                          i carry that sword all the way till 60 and use it in PT for MP bonus the sword itself slashes very fast too so quite nice to use it to up skill. after 60 I became too lazy to carry it anymore so it just stays in my mog house ever since.

                          I also bought the level 55 sword and use it when I solo for money. Was using it till 65 until i bought my new golden sword :D
                          (these 2 swords I posted >> =here= )
                          ^^
                          There are painters who transform the sun into a yellow spot,
                          but there are others who with the help of their art and their intelligence
                          transform a yellow spot into the sun.

                          - Pablo Picasso

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                          • #88
                            i carry that sword all the way till 60 and use it in PT for MP bonus the sword itself slashes very fast too so quite nice to use it to up skill. after 60 I became too lazy to carry it anymore so it just stays in my mog house ever since.

                            I also bought the level 55 sword and use it when I solo for money. Was using it till 65 until i bought my new golden sword :D
                            (these 2 swords I posted >> =here= )
                            ^^
                            There are painters who transform the sun into a yellow spot,
                            but there are others who with the help of their art and their intelligence
                            transform a yellow spot into the sun.

                            - Pablo Picasso

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                            • #89
                              i carry that sword all the way till 60 and use it in PT for MP bonus the sword itself slashes very fast too so quite nice to use it to up skill. after 60 I became too lazy to carry it anymore so it just stays in my mog house ever since.

                              I also bought the level 55 sword and use it when I solo for money. Was using it till 65 until i bought my new golden sword :D
                              (these 2 swords I posted >> =here= )
                              ^^
                              There are painters who transform the sun into a yellow spot,
                              but there are others who with the help of their art and their intelligence
                              transform a yellow spot into the sun.

                              - Pablo Picasso

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                              • #90
                                how mcuh does ur swords cost?

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