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  • #31
    artifact stage 3 second half .. reference list

    Reference less : * Bowwow diary
    It is dense considerably had heard the rumor of brutal.
    With ???? fog time.
    But, the circumstances which are not the extent which you think you try starting.
    Is normality attack 100 - 200, TP skill 200 - 900, the typhoon of entire attack 200 - 500 calls probably the place?
    Even the demon Taoist putting in place sufficient distance, if it does not receive the typhoon, somehow with room, it is the range which it is possible.
    Aggressive time had ended in 10 minutes.



    946 names: The troop teacher contribution day which is not either name: 2002/12/11 (water) 10:10

    The ????????? it comes off, it is.
    The go rem of fortress if it goes with everyone 2h ?? full opening, short term can fight a decisive battle is rather with red the alone ?
    We recommend that it attacks with the ?.
    The ????? however we fear, was the kind of impression which is only durability about of half of the DS of white or
    And others, just the maneuvers doing accurately, if the rear line does not deteriorate, with the constitution which can push down the NM of white and the monk sufficiently
    It is the enemy which it can win.



    671 names: The troop teacher contribution day which is not either name: 2002/12/17 (fire) 06:43

    The go rem small fish of the fortress it is
    It is who, it forced from the ????? and said as for the person whom
    5 games 5 victory

    ???? of avant-garde 7 red 5 white 5
    In the same manner as the AF3 of white do the ? it waits



    256 names: The troop teacher contribution day which is not either name: 2002/12/18 (water) 10:06

    Yesterday AF3 tour participating, coming to the point of luck well the AF3 of red going, the cap
    It came off. Saying from conclusion, the ? or go rem there is no many thing, is.
    Without the deceased it can go sufficiently. As for the ? outside ?? everyone the ? it boils immediately.
    If go rem just red comes out outside, if the box you inspect, it boils. Red is one time unless
    The box inspecting, it does not boil. Because the ? is the ? densely, being in large quantity in the ? coming toe, the ? it can win.
    As for go rem, unless the bone it probably will solve the ? immediately after cleaning, you do, fighting, at at the time of the ?
    Growing the ? ? which is sown it destroys. If the small fish does not grow, it is room. Rear guard before the gate,
    Just avant-garde entering into the room which has the box, it tries not to put out go rem from the room when
    It is good, is. The event at the time of AF 3 clearing seeing, red doing, the ? it was good, you can think because
    ????!



    775 names: The troop teacher contribution day which is not either name: 2002/12/19 (wood) 04:06

    Now, the ? coming hat you took, * * that 5 people * *
    Honesty saying, the NM other job is weaker, is. In rumor go rem of red
    Speaking most strongly, however you have heard, at all such a thing thinking it is not.



    813 names: Name it is not contribution day: 2002/12/23 (month) 13:04

    Unless there is a red AF3 fortress go rem avant-garde lv60, being unreasonable, Good Heavens that
    If to be too hard & range attack to be too painful & - in the small fish enemy framework and the joke it is
    However & you said with 17 people, total destruction (55-60 approximately pt avant-garde 58)
    The poet inserting with everyone ?? white of avant-garde 60, the ballad tweet with the Seoul voice un
    If go it may, 10 people with.
    Only tour opening improbable, per red one person 2 people it accompanies when with. (Avant-garde 60)


    45 names: The troop teacher contribution day which is not either name: 2002/12/24 (fire) 11:42

    < Report: AF3 >
    - - NM compilation of ?? * in - -
    Something the ?? and the pulling out selection POP we would like to see.
    After pushing down, in 15 minutes and the ????? the POP.
    If 60LV neighborhood it is not strong. 1, with 2PT all right.
    The ??, the bat, cleaning go rem the around, to the TP300 accumulating
    With everyone ????? cOk. As for the black which is ancient magic the desired place.
    It meaning that HP absorption comes sometimes don't you think? HP management securely.
    Trading the old coin, after the event occurring, you speak with the bar of the sand.
    - - Go rem compilation of fortress - -
    First exceeding, when the ? ? it is and inspects the box the left the POP it does.
    With the ???? there is a ? case with the fog ? ? deceased.
    When in the room the ??? the POP doing while fighting, being unintentionally, time measuring, it cleans.
    This the weapon the around, the bat, cleaning the ??, to the TP300 accumulating
    Everyone ?????.
    It meaning that range attack is hard, as for rear guard system the one which is outside the room is better.
    When the nail ?? you take, without inspecting, designate trade as the box.
    After the event ending, when it enters into the north sand, event occurrence.
    - - It collects, - -
    Lowest, require helping the avant-garde job 1 rear guard job 1 concerning the red 1 person.
    Because helping the shield part does not get together excessively, designate red as ?? game.
    ?? * in and the fortress only 1 being drop not to do, when red is many, it is serious.



    47 names: The troop teacher contribution day which is not either name: 2002/12/24 (fire) 11:58

    >>45
    As for the NM ghost of ?? * in whether normally at time the POP, the ?????
    When I go, 5 people being to do, it does, but the POP doing in 10 minutes, it increases
    As for the enemy of the hall everything being to clean, whether pulling out selection the ?????

    7 avant-garde 5 human rear guards whose go rem about rumor was not strong and is (the red 5 person)
    Exactly, being to challenge with the ?? of the 2PT, it does, but 5 times it defeated without producing the deceased
    The poet it is not, being to be, it does, 2 barrels on the rear guard, but the fact that the MP becomes insufficient is was not
    When the method of fighting, the red demon derived teacher you shoot everyone ????? and shoot range attack
    It recovers from the place where it does not reach, as for avant-garde the ????? without using, it was the feeling, normally, cooperation.

    The coin & the nail puller respectively being 5 to be people necessary, it does, but
    As for ?? * in 1 hour just a little, either the fortress without catching 2 hours, it ended.

    Whether with update of 19 days it becomes modification the ?????
    You were wrong the rumor of the society and it was being lazy. Actually degree of hardness was not high that much, is.



    1287 names: The troop teacher contribution day which is not either name: 2002/12/26 (wood) 14:46

    Already, red AF everything having, a ? leak to advise, solving, but
    The LV it has lifted with the red 6PT?
    Speaking clearly, it is hard, ? 2 how the excessiveness it puts out without fail.
    Such a red reaching all the way, you think the ????? and go rem it can push down?
    Increasing, 100% drop ? passing, accumulating to the TP300, number of people minute the reason which is done therefore
    Time is required outrageously, it is is!
    However you are not wrong to ???? recommendation, when the person of red it is many, it is harsh.
    If number of people of red it is, the extent frequency which is densely is if it is not, if it is to do,
    The probability where shield part dies naturally increases.
    As for HP absorption skill of the ????? however certainly it is enormous,
    Rumor preceding, human unexpected relations are good truly it is to do the shield which is helped.
    And, go rem game is harsh after all.
    The nail puller lot has done to be defeated the person who impatience starting
    When the box investigation ? ? ? it is the ? it does when has not been either the TP and does not have either the MP and HP it is hell plan.
    Bad thing calls
    The ???? (it helps in the 1PT to a red 1 person and 5 people it is thick concerning 1 person the ? ?) with was done the one which
    Good fortune.
    If that the excessiveness the feather attaching hat abandons



    59 names: The troop teacher contribution day which is not either name: 2003/01/14 (fire) 12:19 [ gGEqpcWga ]

    The NM ??? of the AF3, to force rather, it seems, it is is, but
    Unless and the ? ? it does and there is a ???? of level 60 there is no chance, is?


    60 names: The troop teacher contribution day which is not either name: 2003/01/14 (fire) 12:24 [ KJV6C$scw ]

    >>59
    You think it is easier than the DS of the white AF3.
    When we pushes down, they were 15 people of the Lv54 - 60. If (the poet is, being less, the good quality ?
    ?)
    5 and 6 people gathering the avant-garde above the Lv58, the expectation which remains and can go with recovery part.

    Simply, when the box is inspected, go rem conveying to the thing PT which comes out, the bucket,
    The TP accumulating, because perhaps the foolish red which you inspect on ? midst is.
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    • #32
      Artifact stage 3 ref list continued

      564 names: The troop teacher contribution day which is not either name: 2003/01/15 (water) 17:02 [ 68yuc47wi ]

      Either AF story of red does not rise...
      That information is little, it is is...

      However the ?? it was the ??? of the ???? a little little with the eye, as many as 2 times are routed...
      The plural times without the intention of doing because of red it became... As for the ??
      The soldier AF3, the monk AF3 and the knight AF3 handling, although it is the deceased zero,
      Just the red AF3, ??? 1 time immediate defense 2 name, is routed with the rear guard 1 death.
      2nd also time avant-garde 2 name, is routed with the rear guard 1 death.

      When 1st time how escaping, HP receovering completely, it increased
      2nd time decreasing half, such a body cod ?.

      Don't you think? another, however it probably is ??? what, the ? which considerably is the shock.
      Something the air which comes off at all does not do, the ? ? the ? ? ?? doing to lift ill-smelling with this time of today, it increases.

      M honesty, advice wants and is (the _ _) m



      566 names: The troop teacher contribution day which is not either name: 2003/01/15 (water) 17:08 [ 52v4vbaY ]

      >>564
      It cannot win above the ??? 2 ?? of the red AF3, how it is kana?
      It cannot win by any means, if the avant-garde everyone TP300 accumulating, commencement cooperation to become doing
      The rear guard magic using, the ? it ends immediately.

      Because it is not the degree of hardness where, information stays to a AF3 there is no story of the ghost, however you think it is is.


      567 names: 566 contribution days: 2003/01/15 (water) 17:12 [ 52v4vbaY ]

      Looking at >>564, you became aware....
      Almost when the ??? you do with avant-garde job, HP being absorbed, it is hard.
      Rear guard overplentiful avant-garde are few the eyes the ??? and go rem, it is lowering.



      591 names: The troop teacher contribution day which is not either name: 2003/01/15 (water) 18:04 [ 4bdo6swE ]

      As for AF3, ???? (avant-garde: Rear guard = 3: If) ratio you think whether it can go.
      With the small fish without forgetting either that it accumulates up to TP 300, don't you think?.
      It can go the ? with ancient magic & the WS, HP it is few unexpectedly.

      As for go rem if only the typhoon you pay attention, all right. Fighting at the place where it has the box,
      Perhaps the rear guard it is good to fight outside the room.
      Simply, because the deceased comes out by any means with the dark guiro, as for the place over there, secure apology while
      You will appreciate.



      663 names: Sage contribution day: 2003/01/15 (water) 23:44 [ 2fsFrPq. ]

      It is the NM ??? of ?? * in of the AF3, but accompanying to the white AF3
      That we asking next, perhaps, you should have seen, is. It passed away the ????? the ?
      ??? if
      It can defeat it is strength next. Intense absorption and the POP time which past have appeared with the ?? non-
      Accuracy
      It was not, is.
      As for go rem of fortress, before the normal 58 - the 60 the PT of 3 later 3 * the ?? of 3 uniting, the advance TP
      Saving doing
      It defeated. It meaning that range attack is hard in any case, as for May G the one which has gone down is better to think
      It increases.



      ? ?????????
      As for the ghost of ?? * in, there is no kind of level where it can win with just red.
      In addition, POP random. When HP becomes red, the ghost the around depending, you call total destruction pattern
      It can be.
      Go rem, speaking clearly, considerably the forcing and the ti Bu toy.
      Also range attack is hard and, ???? nomination it puts out, only red wins or, as for the key item
      Only one you do not drop being
      Equal to the quantity of red must fight.
      When you say whether or not from strength of the enemy, every difficultly to over there you can gather Sawayama's human, it is dense
      ? is problem.

      Taking completely by alone power fence day just the gene kana.



      Fortress
      The maneuvers almost even here the same. Simply, spirit attack is not effective excessively, with the notion that where, with to
      Like this the rammer beating. As for demon Taoist from outside room. Simply, there is fatality, that stops ?
      Place. It defeats this anyhow. It fought with go rem lag swaying. Door
      Excuse it was not in the PT which, hunts at before is. Once, inserting notice, acknowledgement
      Receiving, being to start, it does, but recovery being late with lag, it cannot wipe either the impression being
      It did.



      As for red AF3 with ???? as for recovery 6 person desired place.
      Rather than thinking, is not strong, but as for avant-garde not putting out the enemy from the cubbyhole,
      The rear guard when to be close (the door of the first door exactly is, magic not reaching and) being preventing the explosion of the unlikely event.
      Perhaps, the bat POP it does in the place where the rear guard is, but push down at the rear guard.
      When the NM beak it boils, * & * ? ? ???? ? ? thing shelf.
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      • #33
        Artifact stage 3 ref final

        611 names: The troop teacher contribution day which is not either name: 2003/02/19 (water) 22:12 [ MSl8jcBxm ]

        >>600
        Now gaze check the inside Don John being mounted, because the ?,
        When it is in the cubbyhole conversely, CARE Lu from the rear guard does not reach and is dangerous.
        When go rem is ?, with provocation you take immediately to per outside the room and foreward 1, the ?



        809 names: The troop teacher contribution day which is not either name: 2002/12/18 (water) 15:28

        The AF3 of red and white it went back and forth. Originally just red AF tour
        However was, the excessiveness going, you make do also white in,
        As for constitution red 7, white 5, ? 3, game 2, ?
        The ghost of red ends with room and the deceased 0.
        The DS of white because it starts to beat also red with everyone with dimensional shooting rapid fire considerably in avant-garde the deceased
        So it is safe end.
        White 1 falling here, member supplement, red 8, white in 4.
        Go rem of red was done lastly, but as for the death 0. When the typhoon it is shot in rapid succession, dangerous
        However when it is single-engine, it is not painful so. Red first spirits striking, immediately battle cancellation
        After doing, CARE Lu it has had doing directly.



        811 names: The troop teacher contribution day which is not either name: 2002/12/18 (water) 16:00

        Go rem being popular, if the bone, like this the ? there is no ? at the time of the ?, room
        When it boils, it is even with the ???? and destroys in the ? coming
        Immediately after cleaning, the box we inspect



        818 names: The troop teacher contribution day which is not either name: 2002/12/18 (water) 16:57

        >>816
        As for well, fearing with AF 3 of white as for the possibility of dying even with fatality putting out 60 avant-garde of dimensional shooting rapid fire in 0
        And others it is not.
        As for fearing with the red AF3 ????? rapid fire.
        If this luck to be bad as much as 3 rapid fire are done, also the PT of 60 avant-garde subjects is destroyed.

        However it can decrease, losing you think accident it is not possible.
        But as for the person who can be entwined to the bone with the AF of the ? and red the ??.



        821 names: The troop teacher contribution day which is not either name: 2002/12/18 (water) 17:11

        As for wanting good equipment it is understood. Is, but standing on tiptoe, how it does?
        The ??? getting together, it is the ? which several needing ? is good and is how thinking, it is good, - is, how thinking, from the ?
        There being a painful eye, that, as for go rem when it is strong, applying, becomes the rumor which is not the root or the leaf which you say.
        Know about the body! It makes high level help mission what change viewing.
        Inspecting the thing of the enemy, you think of strategy, gather the companion and as for the AF ?? there are no droppings.
        What it has made the droppings is side what which is tackled that.






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        • #34
          Artifact stage 4

          * The demon hand where the ?????? is lost (last date updated: 2003/03/14)



          Remuneration : ????????? (both hands)
          The anti 16 MP+12 DEX+4 resistance darkness +10 the Lv54 - it parries, skill +10 red Rare EX

          Requester : Guslam / ??? higher stratum of society * guard house

          Occurrence condition : Red AF1 " red coming ordeal " ???, or more of red Lv50

          Request contents : You say somewhere of this world alone name craftsman/teacher selection there is a specially made gauntlet of the craftsman ?????? which cracks in 100.......

          Solution : You hear story in the Guslam which is in corner of the room of the guard house of ??? higher stratum of society, from the ????? of the elm D Lu ancient tomb, are to be the ? the thing ' the gauntlet which becomes old ' it procures.
          After the procuring, after speaking to the Guslam, the underground which you speak with the ??? which is on such as center of the heaven crystal hall, before the ??? port tax-free store (is the ???? riding place)"? When " the target it does, the event occurring, the ?????? appears. When it makes a contract with the ??????, it is said ' the flame of the darkness ' bring from the ????? castle.
          There to be " a Torch " in crowded zone of daemon of the most inner part of the ????? castle contour, when you inspect, the Dark Spark of the NM of bomb type being framework, after pushing down, when again you inspect " the Torch ", is to be, the ? the flame of the thing ' darkness ' enters into the hand. Again with this the ??? port "? If " you inspect, " the ????????? " enters into the hand.

          Recommendation number of people : Or more of the Lv55 takes 2 or more (the key), the latter half the necessity 6 or more.

          ?????
          POP position : * East Seinan large hall north
          * Large the bomb which follows to the switch from the hall is, the cubbyhole
          * It fell from the room of the G-6 the place
          * It fell from the room of the G-9 the place
          * It falls from the G-8, there is on a north and south of the place of the ????? the cubbyhole
          * Goes from the glacier the top of the hillock of the ancient tomb Utukku room which

          Key drop
          Monster : * Utukku (???)
          * Tomb Wolf (dog)
          * Dark Stalker (????)



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          • #35
            Artifact stage 5 final stage

            Red demon Taoist AF ????? (last date updated: 2003/03/19)



            ??????
            Fortress : ???????? (both legs)
            Anti 33 MP+13 MND+3 Lv56 - recovery magical skills +10 strengthening magical skill +15 red Rare EX

            ????? castle : ????????? (torso)
            Anti 44 MP+14 CHR+5 Lv58 - permanent residence discontinuance ratio 10% down weak body magical skills +15 red Rare EX

            Occurrence condition : " The demon hand offer where the ?????? is lost " (the red AF2 " red coming ordeal " ????)

            Solution : If the fortress if the Fallen Officer, the Bhuta and the ?? the Yagudo Conducter, the Yagudo Flagellant, the Yagudo Prelate getting the key of the ????? which drop is done, the ? ? fur is opened.

            * Note: Job will open the ????? by all means in state of red. When you open in state of job other than red, the item which is not relationship and the money comes out.

            Recommendation number of people : ?????? fortress... above Lv55 4 or more
            ????? castle... above Lv58 6 or more (key taking)

            ?????
            POP position : The rough sketch it must be reference.

            Key drop
            Monster : ?????? fortress... Fallen Officer, Bhuta
            ????? castle... Yagudo Conducter, Yagudo Flagellant, Yagudo Prelate






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            • #36
              phew long post....

              phew that af post took a lot out of me i will begin the full translation process monday with correct translatation and editing for it to make more sense

              I will be using a program called babylon pro to help with the kanji which im still sucky at..

              oh well we all have short comings
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              • #37
                REDSYLPH

                after joining one of the japanese forums boards i was directed to a very lovely website .
                seems theres kinda of a red mage renaisance in the world of vanadiel.
                Theres a japanese linkshell known as REDSYLPH.
                Guess what?
                They are all red mages even have a red linkshell.
                heres a link to their website.
                I advise all to check it out especially you baby red mages out there.
                http://www.interq.or.jp/red/hara/RedSylph/

                and their banner
                http://www.interq.or.jp/red/hara/Red...g/RedSylph.png

                I think im in luv now.






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                • #38
                  ...Wow. What magic are they all casting?
                  A coward turns away, but a brave man's choice is danger. -Euripides

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                  • #39
                    Doesn't your hands hurt from all that typing? *Looks at his fingers* I know I would...:sweat:
                    Blm.75 - Whm.56 - Mnk.58 - Rdm.48 - Nin.37 - War.37 - Drk.37

                    Merits - 98
                    Goldsmith - 85.2

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                    • #40
                      Just saw this tread.

                      by the way RDM has been changed a LOT we are totally different now.
                      We RDM are no longer are the "second crappy choice when there's no one else around" anymore :spin:
                      We become the job people love, the job people would look for.

                      With the power of refresh and convert, people started to call us Superman Super Red Mage. Hurray~

                      I kind of got diferent ideas about sub jobs than yours. As RDM there's sub job that works the BEST. there's sub job that is ok to use, and there's sub job that won't fit us at all



                      = BEST sub job = are WHM and BLM
                      Nowaday, a PT with BRD and RDM is highly sought. The power of 2 ballard combined with refresh is awesome. With BRD and RDM already in PT, people will only look for 1 more caster. either BLM or WHM

                      /BLM - is the most versantile. you got wild range of spells and can perform many task. The most useful spell for your PT however is *escape*. RDM's 2 hour ability combined with the power of escape is a super life saviour.
                      of course a PT without BLM, or PT of RDM WHM BLM, I love to use /BLM.
                      For soloing, /BLM is super useful for desion :p it's the best combination for coffer/chest hunts
                      But even with /BLM, don't expect us RDM to be a nuker. We can throw in our best spell to help boost renkei with a MB, but our ability to nuke normally would fall farrrr behind BLM.

                      Now if your PT already have BLM to desion 2 and excape you back town, you might want /WHM

                      /WHM - is a perfect combination for Convert. Convert is a 10 minute reuse ability which match WHM's Megaminoshirushi re-use time Convert to make your MP full, use shirushi and cure 4 yourself. BOOM both your MP and HP are almost full :E
                      WHM itself also adds tons of useful magics especcially the status correctioning spells.
                      People love RDM/WHM nowadays if your PT has BRD RDM BLM, you really should use /WHM. (BLM won't care to heal you so much when you convert)



                      = OK sub job = ok means so so... you won't be as useful as above. some can be good for som purpose or soloing WAR PLD THF RNG.

                      the reason why these sub jobs are just so so is because, of course, these sub jobs give some nice useful abilities.
                      But as RDM, our best task is to cast magics. We gain a LOT of useful magics nowadays. and using these 3 as sub job is not supporting our role as caster so much.

                      /WAR. The only time a RDM/WAR is 100% useful, is below level 20. we can replace a WAR easily. After level 24-25~ however no one would expect a RDM to use /war unless you really lack taunter for your PT.
                      after lv 24~ our DEX and skill start falling far behind a real fighter, make it so hard for us to charge TP or even hit the enemy, Plus fighters gain access to a lot better armors so taunting can hurt ourself a lot.
                      Still, if there really is NO taunter available at all, a RDM can use /WAR.
                      war's taunt is the best tool for stealing monster when there's a lot of coppetitors too.

                      /PLD. is for shield bash. apart from that there's no point using PLD as sub job.

                      /THF. Use it for money hunt but never for level up PT. THF gives a nice ability to critical attack from the back but as sub job it only boost verrrrry tiny little damage. (if you hit for 100, a back THF's critical can boost it to 120-130)
                      If you fight tote+~ , RDM normally would hit for only 10-30 damage each time. with THF's ability, it would boost up about 10-20 more damage (and we hardly hit... THF's ability doesn't make hit easier)


                      /RNG. wild area scanning can come in handy when hunting for NM or specific monsters/NPCs once again not a combination for level up PT




                      = unpreferrable sub job = they are even less useful in PT that the above. Some can be useful when solo, but really not my choice when partying. BST BRD DRK MNK

                      /BST. again, this is not a combination for level up PT. having a pet can help you solo tougher enemies you normally can't solo at your level if you know how to use BST's ability.

                      /BRD. screw the fact that we can sing. Our refresh works wayyyy BETTER than ballard 1. And 150 more MP we got from /whm /blm is a lot more useful than the low level songs we can sing with 30BRD (at level 60)

                      /DRK.
                      I PT with a RDM/DRK once at level 60. And believe me the combination sucks. that RDM/DRK had about 30-40 more HP than me (rdm/whm) and about 100 less MP. His attacking damage was the same as mine.
                      additionally, DRK can use weapon bash with 2 hand weapons which is totally waiste because RDM can only use 1 hand weapon.

                      /MNK. No bonus from MNK is useful for RDM at all. MNK got more HP, counter attack, which help with tankers. But we RDM are not tanker. Plus MNK gives no MP boost at all. we need more MP more than those ability.



                      = sub job I haven't test = These are just prediction....
                      /ninja - duel wield looks cool. other than for fun purpose there's no need to this sub
                      /sum - MP refresh ability might be useful. But believe me RDM is best to cast refresh on a real summoner than summonning by ourself.
                      /sam - TP charging king... useless for RDM
                      /drg - jumping... once again useless for us
                      There are painters who transform the sun into a yellow spot,
                      but there are others who with the help of their art and their intelligence
                      transform a yellow spot into the sun.

                      - Pablo Picasso

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                      • #41
                        tazirai asked me to post anything in here that I thought would be helpful, since I'm one of the very few career RDM on our linkshell.

                        I thought I'd start out with some magic info. A lot of people think RDM has no advantages magic wise over a BLM/WHM or a WHM/BLM. I'm certainly not saying that any one class is better over another, as I think ALL jobs and combinations on FFXI have their own merits and value. But I am going to list off some things that are available to RDM that would not be available to a BLM/WHM or WHM/BLM under the current level cap of 65.

                        WHM spells that can be used by a level 65 RDM which would not be able to be used by a level 65/32 BLM/WHM:

                        Dia2 - RDM level 31, WHM level 36
                        Shell2 - RDM level 37, WHM level 37
                        Haste - RDM level 48, WHM level 40
                        Cure4 - RDM level 48, WHM level 41
                        Protect3 - RDM level 47, WHM level 47
                        Diaga2 - RDM level 45, WHM level 52
                        Shell3 - RDM level 57, WHM level 57

                        BLM spells that can be used by level 65 RDM which would not be able to be used by a level 65/32 WHM/BLM:

                        Air2 - RDM level 45, BLM level 34
                        Bio2 - RDM level 36, BLM level 35
                        Fire2 - RDM level 50, BLM level 38
                        Sleep2 - RDM level 46, BLM level 41
                        Blizzard2 - RDM level 55, BLM level 42
                        Poison2 - RDM level 46, BLM level 43
                        Thunder2 - RDM level 60, BLM level 46

                        And finally, of course, RDM only spells:

                        BA-series (Note: WHM does get equivalent spells which function for the ENTIRE PT, so these are not truly RDM only spells in that they are not available AT ALL to other jobs):

                        BaStone - Level 5
                        BaSleep - Level 7
                        BaWater - Level 9
                        BaPoison - Level 10
                        BaParalyze - Level 12
                        BaAir - Level 13
                        BaFire - Level 17
                        BaBlind - Level 18
                        BaBlizzard - Level 21
                        BaSilence - Level 23
                        BaThunder - Level 25
                        BaVirus - Level 39
                        BaBreak - Level 43

                        Enchant series:

                        EnThunder - Level 16
                        EnStone - Level 18
                        EnAir - Level 20
                        EnBlizzard - Level 22
                        EnFire - Level 24
                        EnWater - Level 27

                        And finally, the RDM spells that don't really fit into any other category:

                        Regen - Level 21
                        Gravity - Level 21 (I think..will have to double check that one)
                        Phalanx - Level 33
                        Refresh - Level 41
                        Dispel - Umm..I'll have to edit this post later to reflect the level on Dispel..I don't have that information readily available T-T

                        BRD does get songs that have similar effects to Regen and Refresh that are casted on entire party. However, unlike the BA-series, these two spells can be casted to other party members as well as to yourself. Phalanx and Dispel are new spells since the last update, and I have very little information about them at this time, epecially since I am too low level and have too few gil to use either of them >.<
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                        • #42
                          dispel is level 33 This spell give us RDM the opportunity to fully replace BRD ^^
                          It gets rid of 1 positive magic effects on the enemy if not resisted.
                          example would be Protest, Shell, haiste, etc.
                          The most usful time is against insects or crabs the defense up ability can be dispelled as well.
                          Dispel recast time is really short. unlike BRD's finare. ^^ we can recast it over and over very quick to get rid or all effect possible.

                          I'll add about the skill require for some magics that might be helpful (not gonna list ALL spell. only the useful ones)

                          start off with RDM's number 1 skill ^^ The Weakenning Magic skill Žã‘Ì–‚–@
                          Dia - the main skill training magic ^^
                          Paralyse
                          Slow
                          Blind
                          Poison
                          Dispel - the main reason to train your skill ^^


                          Number 2 skill, Strengthenning Magic ‹_‰»–‚–@ this skill is quite harder to raise.
                          Protest series.
                          Shell series.
                          Regen.
                          Refresh.
                          All En series - the main reason to train this skill ^^
                          I guess Phalanx is here too.
                          Desion+Escape can also up this skill

                          for addition,
                          regen heals 5 HP/second. equal to pian 5
                          Refresh heals 3 MP per second. Equal to ballard 1 and ballard 2 together.
                          Compare the numbers and the reason why RDM no need to /BRD would be explained.

                          Now if anyone tell you En magic sucks, reply them "You suck"
                          En magic is really a great great help if you train your Strengthenning skill at all My En magic usually does +17 damage to weak enemies (against the right element i mean) and can be between 6-17 on strong ones (strong enemies can resist sometime so only half damage ^^)

                          Note: if any of you have obtained Phalanx please explain what effect it does thanks (I'll go to BCNM for it after final exam)
                          There are painters who transform the sun into a yellow spot,
                          but there are others who with the help of their art and their intelligence
                          transform a yellow spot into the sun.

                          - Pablo Picasso

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                          • #43
                            hey jei, what kind of weapon do you use, and what weapon? It is hard for me to decide what to use...:confused:

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                            • #44
                              mainly sword. Dagger sometime. I never use staff. And I train arrow just for fun.
                              (I feel good to shoot Side Winder with /RNG it always surprise people)

                              edit: forgot... im using lv 55 1h sword (the +15 attack one) it's name is all kanji i cna't spell it.
                              and a black baselard (?) level 57 dagger.
                              There are painters who transform the sun into a yellow spot,
                              but there are others who with the help of their art and their intelligence
                              transform a yellow spot into the sun.

                              - Pablo Picasso

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                              • #45
                                hey thanks, tazirai's posts about clubs and other weapons were making me wonder If I should try one of them, but I think I'll keep sticking to my sword. It's a lot more fun that the other weapons I tried.

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