Duo Olla

[hongman]

Looking for ideas here please, possible strats.

Iv taken to duoing Sky NM's with a fellow RDM, and its soooo fun.

Olla is next on my sights. But I am looking for a viable way to take it down.

I must say, I'm not very experienced in these fights altogether, Iv only done them a few times in mega alliance so I cant really judge how difficult it is.

All I know is, he will be different to Zip, Despot and Faust. Those 3 we did, we had magic-aggro free areas to fight/kite in/around.

Olla pops in a magic aggro zone. He also spams Magic Shield which makes the whole Bind/Grav/Silence thing a bit void.

So, I'm trying to come up with ideas.

One idea is, 2 x RDM/NIN melee? Bounce hate. Can fight for as long as want/can where he pops as there is only 1 pot that pops there, can easily kept it slept.

Another idea is, go NIN75 RDM75? Would like to go RDM x 2 but that changing jobs isnt all that much of an issue for 1 NM.

Ideas appreciated!

[Taskmage]

Re: Duo Olla

Heh, you've done much more in sky than me at this point, but I can give you notes from the Avesta solo.

Pull it to one of the portal rooms behind the blue or yellow doors to have an aggro free area to fight in. Kite around the portal platform. Don't know whether it's strictly necessary but of course he had crimson legs.

Each form has about 7000 hp. All forms use mysterious light which wipes shadows and makes it impossible to kite if you get caught in range, and the second form likes to use Sleepga too. Second and third forms have TP regen, with the latter using TP "every few seconds." Most of your damage comes from DoTs when you can get them in. Because of the Magic Shield spam, Avesta used a bow to do additional damage.

I don't want to say 2x rdm/nin couldn't work since one rdm/nin is already pretty durable, but all the Ollas have AoEs that would strip both sets of shadows at once and probably weaken your stoneskin enough that the next hit would come through and interrupt you, plus the en-dispel when it connects would make it a pain in the butt. It's probably possible if you're coordinated enough, but it would be a challenge.

[hongman]

Re: Duo Olla

Wow, there's some food for thought.

Mysterious Light inflicts weight as well right?

Just on another note, we tried Faust again last night. OMG that guy was on super crack. Since out last battle which we won without any dire stiuations, we both bought Enfeebling Torques, which push my skill up by 2 and my partners by 7. Otherwise, same gear etc

We tried him 3 seperate times last night, and wiped everytime. He resisted pretty much anything cast at him - insta wear binds, full resists, etc - even Dot's were lasting a mere 30s or so.

What the fuck? The first time was on Firesday, thought that could attribute the weak binds. Second on Earth day, third on Waters. All the same.

It's driving me nuts. Why? Wiki says he is 83-85 - last night maybe he was 85? Maybe a party or 8 had already tried him so he had a reisistence built to grav/bind?

I feel ashamed we lost. But thenI remind myself, this is no easy task (as I had come to start feeling after we beat him the first time).

Gona try him again on Friday night. In the meantime, can someone please try explain what the hell changed!

Also, do you have a link to Avesta Vs Olla? I want to see how he does it.

Thanks
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Holy jesus of all Christ's I have the answer to one of my problems...I think.

How can I work out how much exp a lvl 83, 84 and 85 NM would give to 2 75 players?

[Seijurohiko]

Re: Duo Olla

I've noticed that with Faust too, that sometimes he just seems like he's on steroids. Had times where we nearly wiped to him trioing, and other times when I've soloed him without a single resist.

As for Olla, I've duoed it a few times as RDM/DRK with a NIN/WAR, and the fights really weren't that hard. We just fought it straight up, keeping it enfeebled as much as possible and ourselves as buffed as possible. The only times we had any troubles were when slow II would wear off just as it used Magic Barrier, or if it decided to use a few Mysterious Lights in close succession.

I think you could probly fight it straight up with 2x RDM/NIN, just make sure to pull it to one of the telepad rooms to avoid magic aggro from the other pots.

[hongman]

Re: Duo Olla

Well I asked Icemage via PM's and he pretty much figured out what was going on.

He worked out via the XP I got that Faust was 83 the time we beat him. So I am 99.9% certain that actually Faust was 85 when we lost.

However, not all is lost. I have 10 skill to add to enfeeb when I cap my merits, and I have advised my partner (who already has capped skill but no AF2 hat) to get a Wise Cap for the Magic Acc +5, which should help a bunch in resist rates.

RDM/DRK and NIN/WAR - that is interesting. I'm guessing you are free-stunning whenever you can? We can actually do this setup, my partner has NIN at 75.

I think straight up tanking might also work as RDM/NIN as you mentioned. I have just got a Justice Sword too which will help DoT, and if one of us got into trouble we could bounce hate by Curing.

I have a Water to pop Olla, so will try Friday night and report back any findings.

Faust is not out of the question by any means. We can tell pretty fast if he is do-able or not, and its easy to warp out

Gonna try BB as well, just pop -> leg it to zone and fight as we do Zip.

SC....have you tried solo/duo SC? Heard of it being done but again, the whole Magic Shield thing bugs me.

Ulli I cant see being too hard for obvious reasons.

Have you tried Genbu also? If we can do BB, we can actually get our own Genbu sets.

I have just got w legs from last night's Kirin :D:D:D so that should help a bunch!

Thanks for sharing.

[Kirsteena]

Re: Duo Olla

If BB drops a stone for Genbu, something is wrong...

[hongman]

Re: Duo Olla

LOL

>.>

I meant Olla. You know what I meant >.>

[hongman]

Re: Duo Olla

Stuck to safe kite method. :D