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  • #16
    Re: weapon choice for RDM

    Originally posted by Omgwtfbbqkitten View Post
    You haven't even gotten to the staves yet, that's eight more items in your inventory slot. That on top of macroing AF in and out with other pieces of gear.
    I need another gobby bag to be added to this reason. I'm pretty much one piece away from not being able to carry all of my casting gear and my melee gear at the same time.

    I never thought having too much good gear would be a hindrance!

    As far as COR goes I really don't swap too much at the moment, but from 70-72 I'll begin having 2 separate sets for TPing and WS'/Quick Draw.
    Last edited by Callisto; 10-09-2007, 08:31 AM. Reason: Slashies!
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    • #17
      Re: weapon choice for RDM

      well to elaborate on rdm solo and weapons

      I'm personally a 'swear by the dagger' type rdm, vs mp mobs (once you get Energy Steal/drain) it can be lifesaving for solo and you have extra mp to nuke,heal yourself, debuff,buff,etc.

      Daggers are best on mobs that resist physical damage or have mp ie crabs, bugards(none),etc. (i'll add more once i remember the rest)

      best example of this is beestinger or hornetneedle fast strokes of enspell with a dagger's low damage adds up quick on hi def mobs with lots of hp

      Swords are best on 'normal' mobs that resist magic damage well ie demons,etc.(again more later)

      little example that sticks out of my head recently on weapon choice is Mischevious Micholas (monkey nm of yuhunghta jungle)

      I regarded this nm (around 65ish) fairly hard because I mainly used daggers when i solo. The nm has lots of hp and hits hard but doesnt have hi def; fighting this nm(68 atm) with a dagger with /blm would take my mp pool plus convert and be left with about 75mp after the fight.

      When I used sword my DoT increased signifgantly(duh kinda) since it hit harder and it was a much easier fight due to stronger wses and stronger hits.


      In a nutshell: dagger is good for fights that are long drawn out against an enemy with special defense abilities or mp, sword is for enemies without them

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      • #18
        Re: weapon choice for RDM

        I melee alot as RDM, usually when soloing, doing missions, quests, skill-up parties, helping people break latent, etc. But I never melee in exp parties... not because I can't, but because there's usually too many other things that are higher priorities (the one exception might be Colibri). There are alot of opportunities to melee as hi-level RDM, but exp parties is not one of them.

        I typically carry about 45 pieces of gear for RDM, which includes gear for melee, nukes, enfeebles, healing, etc., and swap in and out constantly. My melee gear adds +35 Att, +14 Str, and +24 Acc (not counting food), and I have no problem doing decent damage. My best Savage Blade was 2064 (on the Boreal Hound), but in an exp party I'd never gain enough TP to use SB, because of constant gear swaps.
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        • #19
          Re: weapon choice for RDM

          While the OP hasn't replied at all in the past days I just want to mention that:

          1) RDM has no staff skill so you can't use them for anything but casting.

          2) RDM are decent melee up to 50, and there's no reason for a RDM not to melee before level 41 (unless the RDM is main healer of course).

          3) But you gotta sub whm or blm regardless, melee subs fail on xp parties as the little added dmg doesn't compensate for the lack of support spells (except for cases like when the RDM is filling for another role like tanking/dd and has enough support).

          4) Even if RDM could melee up to lvl 50 after level 41 is better to stop meleeing and focus on support.

          5) At lvl 51 when we get elemental staves meleeing while in a xp party simply dissapears from our option list, sincee a weapon you don't have any skill for will be in your hands at least 3/4 of the time.

          6) RDM should have Sword, Dagger, and Shield skill capped for soloing and use the weapon most apropiate for the situation while outside xp parties.

          7) Dagger is a more versatile weapon that can be used as offensive or defensive depending on the situation (this is the weapon I use 3/4 of the time at higher levels). It has weak weapon skills until you get Evisceration, but compensates with more Enspell dmg and endurance against Magic mobs with weapon skills such as Energy Steal and Energy Drain.

          8) Sword is an offensive weapon, you use it to deal damage and sometimes stun a spell. Best weapon earlier in the game (before RDM gets Cyclone and the Steal weapon skills) against magic resistant monsters or while subbing WAR DRK or PLD.

          9) If you aren't dual weilding you'll have a Shield in your off-hand.

          10) Equip macros are your best friends. A basic macro is /equip main "weapon's name" (You have to add " " if the name has more than one word")


          And I think that's about it.
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          • #20
            Re: weapon choice for RDM

            It does depend on which weapons you actually own as well. If you own a Blau Dolch, your DoT and WS damage might be higher than with a mediocre sword. I have an Enhancing Sword and a Joyeuse to choose from, so even if I'm just trying to crank out Enspell damage a Sword is still my best bet, compared to my best dagger being a mediocre Thanatos Baselard.
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            • #21
              Re: weapon choice for RDM

              That's true.
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              • #22
                Re: weapon choice for RDM

                IDK wtf you guys are talking about. If you don't use clubs main hand as a RDM, you're a fucking noob.
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                • #23
                  Re: weapon choice for RDM

                  LoL

                  and yes callisto it's very true

                  personally I want to get a mensur epee and try that out, solo it's base damage is like 43 (more than joy toy-35)

                  so hopefully when i get both it'll be mainhand mensur and off-hand joytoy for tp gain solo.


                  I'm still using my gold sword (38 base ftw) and I love it cant wait to upgrade it though

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                  • #24
                    Re: weapon choice for RDM

                    Originally posted by WishMaster3K View Post
                    IDK wtf you guys are talking about. If you don't use clubs main hand as a RDM, you're a fucking noob.
                    Just something for lulz, the other day I stunned Suzaku's Firaga III by hitting him w/ a Weapon Bash while wearing a Treat Staff II. 12 damage ftw.
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                    • #25
                      Re: weapon choice for RDM

                      More importantly is how the hell you got TP.

                      Oh wait, you're Callisto. You were born with Auto-TP. >.<
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                      • #26
                        Re: weapon choice for RDM

                        Nono, the DRK Job Ability Weapon Bash from going /DRK, can only use with 2H weapons. The last patch buffed the hell out of the Bash JA's, the stun effect is now much more reliable. Suzy opened w/ Firaga III and I was standing next to him within range to use the JA. /DRK ftw!

                        But I do build TP on area mobs before big god/hnm fights, another Spirits Within never hurts anything!
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                        • #27
                          Re: weapon choice for RDM

                          Oh, I thought that was a Staff WS. Shows how much I use Staff and/or DRK sub.
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                          • #28
                            Re: weapon choice for RDM

                            Originally posted by Raydeus View Post
                            2) RDM are decent melee up to 50, and there's no reason for a RDM not to melee before level 41 (unless the RDM is main healer of course).
                            Sure there are reasons not to be in the front line melee'ing; AoE attacks (e.g. Dream Flowers), and resting for MP is usually a good idea when not casting.

                            Originally posted by Raydeus View Post
                            9) If you aren't dual weilding you'll have a Shield in your off-hand.
                            Usually true, but if you're not getting hit, shield is useless.
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                            • #29
                              Re: weapon choice for RDM

                              Originally posted by IfritnoItazura View Post
                              Usually true, but if you're not getting hit, shield is useless.
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                              • #30
                                Re: weapon choice for RDM

                                Originally posted by IfritnoItazura View Post
                                Usually true, but if you're not getting hit, shield is useless.
                                What is added defense for AoE attacks?

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