Vorpal Blade!

[Sevv]

Re: Vorpal Blade!

LoL, trying to figure if you mean in terms of RDM duties such as Refresh/Dispel, or in terms of DD output. Or maybe both?

Refresh/dispel/Heal/haste etc. If a rdm can keep up with the cycles and the mob doesn't use heavy aoes I don't care if they dd, have yet to meet a rdm who can do both.

[Callisto]

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I never melee while main healing a party, but if I'm pulling or just Refreshing it's ridiculously simple to do your RDM stuff while meleeing, I wouldn't be able to figure out how a RDM couldn't.

You don't need to be continually hitting buttons in order to swing your sword, so you don't really have a reason to be missing Refresh/Dispel/Haste when they need to be cast. Use <st> macros for Refresh/Haste so that you can target party members while engaged on the mob. You swap to a melee/DD set while swinging, then swap back to your mage gear when you need to cast. Especially in terms of TP burn, you'll have 4/tick Refresh at the minimum, 5/tick if you have AF2 hat. If you can't Refresh yourself and 1-2 others, Haste yourself and possibly the tank, keep Enspells up, and Dia II/Sleep/Stun as needed on 800-1000 from Refresh in between Converts, you're doing something wrong.

[Sevv]

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If I have a rdm who is not main healing he is the haste cycle as well, even then I have yet to meet a rdm who can keep up with it every rdm I have said ya sure go ahead dd, has lost all skill of keeping up.

[Callisto]

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See, that's why I wrote a guide, to train an army of RDMs who can melee while casting and not miss a beat. Once I have 5 others I'm going to revolutionize XP parties with my Refreshburn style. Maybe if you're lucky some RDMs on Kujata will follow the Path of the Kickass. ^^b

[Sevv]

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drg burn > refresh burn

maybe you should come show them how to do it then >.>

[Mhurron]

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You don't need to be continually hitting buttons in order to swing your sword, so you don't really have a reason to be missing Refresh/Dispel/Haste when they need to be cast.

Every Melee RDM I've seen chooses not to cast to get more swings in. They're also giving up the bonus from Elemental staves which on some mobs might not be important, on many others is definitely is.

If you weren't invited to melee, you probably shouldn't in favor of focusing on one thing. Of course that's in a standard EXP merit. I believe that RDM should be able to be invited as a backup/addition to everything in missions or other special events, where they could melee and provide backup refresh, sleep, enfeebling and healing without being required to be quite as focused on any if they were dedicated to that roll.

[Mhurron]

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Maybe if you're lucky some RDMs on Kujata will follow the Path of the Kickass. ^^b

I already kick ass, but then, I did before I even started playing.

[Sevv]

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I already kick ass, but then, I did before I even started playing.

lol

[Callisto]

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Every Melee RDM I've seen chooses not to cast to get more swings in. They're also giving up the bonus from Elemental staves which on some mobs might not be important, on many others is definitely is.

Oh yeah, that's definitely a no-no. The Cycle is everything as RDM, and it goes before anything else.

Keep in mind that everything I'm doing is relative to a level 75 XP party, where you're pretty much always fighting VT mobs. I'm not recommending that a 65 RDM go off and start hacking at whatever IT there party is fighting. If you need to swap in staves to land your spells on VT mobs at 75, you're doing something wrong.

The most common occurance of me meleeing in a party would be me being the party's puller vs. Greater Colibri, and it's not like you can safely do a lot of offensive casting on them anyways, so really once your cycle is done there isn't much you can do to contribute further to the success of the party. Meleeing for extra damage output is one of the few things you can do, and honestly if I'm not main healing or meleeing against Greater Colibri, I'd probably get bored and fall asleep unless camp is crwded and I need to focus on beating other pullers.

[Sevv]

Re: Vorpal Blade!

i don't doubt you or some other rdms can pull it off just personally have yet to see it first hand.

[Callisto]

Re: Vorpal Blade!

Actually, my favorite post-update melee activity is to just trio with 2 DRGs on Greater Colibri. DRG/BLU. DRG/WHM, and RDM/DRK is a pretty sweet setup for that.

[Sevv]

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Actually, my favorite post-update melee activity is to just trio with 2 DRGs on Greater Colibri. DRG/BLU. DRG/WHM, and RDM/DRK is a pretty sweet setup for that.

Drg/Blu Rdm/nin chaining sea puks is sexy.

[Callisto]

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My new fantasy: Party setup of PLD, DRK, BRD, COR, WHM, and me as RDM/DRK. With my Attack Set + Omelette + Double Min + LR/SE + Warcry + Chaos I'd pretty much have capped pDIF on a Greater Colibri. I wind up Vorpal, and pow! 1,032 damage. Screenshot that and put it all over teh intarwebs.

Oh well, a RDM can dream...and be really, really, terribly, deathly bored at work.

[arkaine23]

Re: Vorpal Blade!

I Vorpal in:

Tariqah (acc +4)
Pln Khazagand (acc +10, crit rate 2%)
Chiv Chain (acc +5, str +3)
O Hat (acc +10)
Amemet +1 (str +2, attack +15)
Ogre Gloves +1 (Str +7)
Ogre Boots +1 (attack +16)
Merc Brais (acc +6)
Tiphia Sting (acc +2 attack +2)
Potent Belt (acc +8 STR +3)
Suppamomimi (Sword skill +5 = acc/attack+4)
Brutal Earring (DA 5%)
Rajas Ring (Dex +5 STR +5)
Sniper's Ring (acc +5)

acc +54 (not including the +5 DEX), STR +20, attack +37 (not Including +20 STR)

I'd like to get Pln Legs and Hat, and start using Sword Belt +1 which would drop acc -6, add attack +17, and STR +3. I sold off a Vishnu's Vest a long time ago, and kind of regret it, though it'd trade 6 acc for just 4 STR, and probably not worthwhile except on weak stuff.


Available Swords: Justice, Joyeuse, Mensur Epee

[WishMaster3K]

Re: Vorpal Blade!

Ark, what kind of results do you see from that, though? What would be your average on maybe an EM mob that you're soloing on?