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  • #31
    Re: Guess what time it is!?!?

    Geez Aeni ._. /blush

    I've fallen off I suppose. Haven't been motivated to be uber. I did solo about 4k exp in the Mire two nights ago, but I'm just stagnant right now! ; ;

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    • #32
      Re: Guess what time it is!?!?

      Oh man, those imps, I have this one funny story I have to tell you.

      So my group went to exp on them, nevermind the fact that because I was only 66 at the time, I wasn't even gonna get maybe 15% of my enfeebles to stick (I think I already posted my gear before, may not be the greatest since I don't have HQ for every single slot, but I spent MILLIONS on it - basically unequipping my DRK - prior to deflation on my server)

      We were doing relatively ... decent ... but I still thought those crawlers would've been better. Anyway... so on one pull ... someone got 1 imp ... then an add ... then another add ... next thing you know, our party was fighting 4 imps.

      Ehhh ... so yeah, managed to keep one slept, the other gravitied (while the BLU kited it) and the other chasing after me ('cause our SMN pulled too much hate)

      Just me and SMN on healing duty, no dedicated main healer as I was subbing BLM (lawl?)

      If one of the imp didn't aoe slept the group, I think we would've pulled it off ... somehow. 2 imps down, WAR/NIN ate it big time as I got silenced (Spent that precious 2 seconds to get off an echo drop)

      AoE sleep drops, I resisted sleep (lawl?) and ran away to the side. I spammed echo drop, tried to pop a curaga and got silenced by the other roaming imp.

      Then ... here's the funny part ... while I tried to get off echo drops and my R: hit 1,500 (I was having a bad day with my ISP) I somehow evaded 4 hits in a row by that imp. Needless to say, it got really angry and decided to cast something. By the time I got echo drop off and landed the curaga, I got iced by a nasty -ga spell (can't remember what) for over 500 dmg received.

      /sigh

      Story of my life ... I've been getting into more and more of these parties that refuse to see less than 200 exp on a kill (non-chained) and 4 level disparity from high to low (after that damn WAR leveled only 2 fights in)

      /weep

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      • #33
        Re: Guess what time it is!?!?

        Originally posted by KingOfZeal View Post
        I'm going to make myself VERY clear on this point: it is NOT necessary for a red mage (or any job for that matter) to swap gear for ANYTHING at ANY TIME.
        /slap

        That's the dumbest RDM advice I've seen in a long time.

        Gear swapping should start at Lv.10, with Pilgrim's Wand/INT+MND wand and INT/MND rings. Earlier, if one has the lower level MND/INT rings.

        * * *

        RDMs who can't keep Refresh on PLD should just be kicked from the party; they are little more than exp leeches.
        Bamboo shadows sweep the stars,
        yet not a mote of dust is stirred;
        Moonlight pierces the depths of the pond,
        leaving no trace in the water.

        - Mugaku

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        • #34
          Re: Guess what time it is!?!?

          Originally posted by Aeni View Post
          WishMaster, you suck. You suck for one reason only. You didn't ask me to static my RDM with your PLD.
          /wrist
          All jokes aside, I've had my share of bad and good DRKs I've partied with on this "other Main character" and as an ex-DRK I had to refrain from saying something to those bad players.
          It's called "turning the other cheek."
          One thing I learned about this game, after quitting twice, is that getting stressed over it isn't worth it. If you're getting ulcers, leave the game for a month and then ask yourself this question: "What am I suppose to derive out of this?"
          If it's entertainment ... "turn the other cheek."
          If it's trying to obtain "the end" of this game ... you should maybe try and distance yourself a bit. Remember, this is a game, albeit an online one, but it's your choice to play this. SE didn't hold you up at gun point. Same with other players. It's their $$ a month, and as such, it's hard to tell people what's "right or wrong" as it's all ... opinions.
          My $0.02
          I accept that a lot of people, most probably, don't play the game with the same rationale that I do, and that probably most of us forum-goers share. Maybe they enjoy the game on a more casual level, and they can appreciate the social and exploration aspects of the game without analyzing their play and being the best at their job they can be. I can perfectly understand people not wanting to grind out the gils to buy the best equipment or puzzling through equations trying to find the optimum balance of pdif and fSTR and whatnot. And yeah, it is their twelve bucks a month or whatever, so as long as they're enjoying the game it's hard to really criticize their choice.

          So, understanding their position, I try to be tolerant and not browbeat them into my way of thinking if it doesn't seem advice is welcome. But good lord is it ever painful to party with some of them. I mean quite honestly, we were all newbs once but it seems like most people in the game just suck, flat out. And the ones that have no interest in improving or just think their way is best despite all reasoning just require my full restraint not to bite their friggin heads off.
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          • #35
            Re: Guess what time it is!?!?

            I just can't get into the number-crunching sector of the game for the life of me. While I appreciate that it might be fun for some, like math classes were "fun" for some, I try to not get too wrapped up in that. The numbers can be just as much for the benefit of others (to improve performace) as it can be detrimental to others (by people who act too elite).

            But I don't think basic knowledge of the elements, MND, INT, etc should be totally ignored, either. People may exaggerate the value of some equipment, but that's no reason to dismiss the value of proven information. If there's something that will make you more effective at your job and you want your job to be better, its something to want.

            Endgame is the grey area, that's where you step from the casual side to the some of the larger extremes. If you didn't bother to improve in EXP, expect to get your lungs handed to you here.

            I have to snicker when people say endgame stuff "vastly" improves your character. It helps a little, but I'd say your milage may vary by job in regards to that vastness. I'm no WHM, but I don't really see much that wows me for that job even if I were. Here's a tunic and some stuff that helps you cure a little better than you cured before. Yay?

            After all the agony of doing Mysticmaker for hours and hours, the moldavite earing gives me like many 12 points more damage to my quick draws. Yay? So that means Novio would give me like 16 more? Maybe?

            That goes for 40 million on Titan. I think I'll just HQ my staves, thanks, BLMs can go to war over that piece.
            Last edited by Omgwtfbbqkitten; 08-20-2007, 04:27 PM.

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            • #36
              Re: Guess what time it is!?!?

              I don't understand fSTR. What I understand: Equip stuff, kill enemies. Or.

              Mob hits too hard? Turtle up. Take off gear bit by bit.

              Calculations aren't fun. Unless you're Armando. He has a sick pleasure for that. >_>
              The Tao of Ren
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              If we don't like something, collectively, if our hatred for it throbs like an abscess beneath every thread, does that mean that they're doing something right?
              Originally posted by Kaeko
              As hard as it may be, don't take this game or your characters too seriously. I promise you - the guys that really own your account don't.

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              • #37
                Re: Guess what time it is!?!?

                Calculations aren't fun. Unless you're Armando. He has a sick pleasure for that. >_>
                Just a bit. It takes me like an hour to get all the numbers I need for a post, which sucks.

                That and I failed Calculus II this summer, I officially hate math. Ok. Just Integrals. But still.

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                • #38
                  Re: Guess what time it is!?!?

                  Integrals suck. I actually kinda like doing the math for damage equations and such sometimes, since it's pretty much just a toy for me. If I was a DD and felt obligated to do them then I'm sure I'd hate to.
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                  • #39
                    Re: Guess what time it is!?!?

                    Originally posted by Armando View Post
                    Just a bit. It takes me like an hour to get all the numbers I need for a post, which sucks.

                    That and I failed Calculus II this summer, I officially hate math. Ok. Just Integrals. But still.
                    If you weren't interested in math, even in the slightest, you would not come up with those terrific threads in which you set straight the mechanics of the game.

                    It basically puts things to right, so the rest of us can just enjoy the game on a more casual level, but making sure we're not being total ignorants in doing so ... thanks Armando.

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                    • #40
                      Re: Guess what time it is!?!?

                      Originally posted by WishMaster3K View Post
                      I don't understand fSTR. What I understand: Equip stuff, kill enemies. Or.
                      Mob hits too hard? Turtle up. Take off gear bit by bit.
                      Calculations aren't fun. Unless you're Armando. He has a sick pleasure for that. >_>
                      I don't understand fSTR either, but I do know that STR+50 equals OMG~Spinning Slash & OMG~Spiral Hell, even with my crappy Elvaan INT. I do however understand that xSkill + yMND equals cap'd Stoneskin & Phalanx. I also understand that if my MND/INT spell macro (For strength of spell) doesn't get the trick done that my Enfeebling Magic Skill macro sure as hell will. (Which I almost never have to use.)
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                      • #41
                        Re: Guess what time it is!?!?

                        If you weren't interested in math, even in the slightest, you would not come up with those terrific threads in which you set straight the mechanics of the game.

                        It basically puts things to right, so the rest of us can just enjoy the game on a more casual level, but making sure we're not being total ignorants in doing so ... thanks Armando.
                        It's not so much an interest in math as it is knowing all the itty bitty details about what does what ;o But you're very much welcome.

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                        • #42
                          Re: Guess what time it is!?!?

                          Yeah, there's a rather critical difference between interest in arithmetic and interest in algebra (which is basically solving equations without having the numbers that go in them).

                          Getting a feel for the formula, even without ever plugging numbers into it, will give insight on the effects a particular change, and help you make intelligent decisions when weighing options. Discovering a formula gives you a sense of how the environment you're operating within works.

                          (Incidentally, I think US public education waits WAY too long to expose people to algebra, given how central it is to an understanding of math and the realm of the conceptual.)

                          Though I actually did pass Calc II and Linear Algebra at UofI so perhaps I'm not exactly representative of the user base here.
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                          • #43
                            Re: Guess what time it is!?!?

                            Originally posted by Aeni View Post
                            Just me and SMN on healing duty, no dedicated main healer as I was subbing BLM (lawl?)

                            tried to pop a curaga and got silenced by the other roaming imp.
                            Nit picking here, please forgive me.

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