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  • RDM vs BLU

    [Pretty much directly copied this from my blog]

    Add this job to the list of things pwnd by RDMs in Ballista: Blue Mage.

    Now I'll admit, I was afraid. Blue Mages can take out half a mob's HP with 4 spells, self-SC Light and MB on their own self-SC and pretty much solo a link down to half life if need be, all while curing the party at the same time and pulling the next mob.

    Yes, I was afraid.

    Until one ran head first into me in Brenner and died before I got 100% TP.

    So what happened was, there was a new person in the LS, and me, deciding to forgo my usual stance of silence, boldly proclaimed that I was the best RDM in the LS.

    An un-named RDM claimed otherwise, and said he'd take me on in PvP.

    Hmmm, ok, sure. RDM vs RDM? I can do that.

    Wait. No. He wanted to take me out on his BLU.

    Huh?

    Ok, that works too. I guess.

    I decided that the best sub for the job would be WAR. In fact, I sub WAR all the time in PvP, because as someone stated:

    "Fighting a RDM PvP is like trying to beat on an Armored car with a stick. When the RDM subs WAR, it's like the Armored Car now has Nukes."

    Subbing WAR is fun. RDM/WAR is pretty much unbeatable, and the only jobs I actually truly fear are DRK and RNG.

    I've beaten MNKs, I've beaten WAR, I've beaten SAM. In fact, I taken 2 at the same time at one point or another.

    I don't like DRK, because they can do like 1k damage in 3 seconds and I don't like RNG because they can do the same thing...

    Worse thing about SAM is that Tachi: Gekko Silences, but otherwise, they're harmless.

    MOVING ON.

    Long story short, I raped the BLU.
    He was mad.
    Called me a cheater, cause I used "Silence."

    Wow. Really now? So I'm a cheater because I crippled you?

    He subbed NIN. Basic strategy I do for anyone subbing Nin is to Diaga, Silence, Bio2 then Poison2. After which I do Paralyze and Slow and I rebuff as necessary. By the time I pull out my sword, they're at half health because they were probably running into my Ice Spikes.

    I have upwards of 500 Def as /WAR(with Defender active and Protect 4), I eat Tav Tacos and I have -20% damage reduction in addition to Phalanx. So yeah, it's pretty hard to even take my Stoneskin off unless you get REALLY lucky. Or if you do some unnecessarily strong move.

    Like I said, I hate DRKs and RNGs...

    So he's spamming curing potions, and I'm reapplying Silence, and he's running into my shield with his face all the while I'm paying attention to the log to see what wears so that I can reapply and before I know it, he's dead.

    And bitching in /sh.

    Now hold on Internet. Let me get this straight. I'm a cheater for silencing a BLU in PvP?

    [Quite literally, I'm sitting at my desk waiting for a response and the analog clock is ticking. I like the ambiance.]

    So he ran in there, expecting me to just melee him, while he let lose with all the unholy abilities of Blue Magic, that can take down a VT at lvl 75 in about 35 seconds?

    He must think RDMs melee or something. He must think that we have an A- in sword. He must've forgotten that RDMs are the masters at Enfeebling. I'm not suprised, because this is the guy that took double digits in his tries to beat Maat as a RDM, gave up and leveled THF instead, and when invited to a party in the Den of Rancor (mid 60s I believe) didn't have Teleport-Yhoat.

    Needless to say, he has no idea how to do anything with RDM that doesn't involve doing a bad Refresh cycle, which he is suprisingly good at.

    Is he serious? Fuck that, Silence is not only a legitament strategy, but it's part of my repetoir. I could have killed him 3 times as fast If I just nuked him with Blizzard 3, Thunder 3 and Blizzard 3 again.

    If he expects me to not use silence and to make it a "Only melee match," then he should have offered to not use any of his offensive Blue Magic. As it was, he was spamming Frenetic Rip like it was going out of style.

    He's a clown. Told me that I sucked, and I stopped caring.

    The funniest part was when he said he would come back on THF and beat me.

    Oh the humanity.

    I apoligize, RDM community. It appears I am a farce. I shall hang up my hat, for it seems my cheating ways have disrespected the community at large.

    Yeah as if.

    So since everyone was wondering, the answer is: BLU are beatable.

    Only by RDM tho. My NIN friend couldn't believe I beat him, because he's been raped by too many BLU. He was calling for nerfs and stuff, but a nerf isn't needed.

    Just a RDM.

    I think they should give RDMs a PvP only weapon called the Nerf-Bat, and we should go around Brenner wielding the powers of Justice.

    Don't tell Grendal tho. I'm afraid he'll come at me as a RNG and give me a spanking I deserve. ; ;
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    Re: RDM vs BLU

    Obviously the only fair fight involving a RDM requires the RDM not to do everything it can.
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    • #3
      Re: RDM vs BLU

      Obviously. I usually give myself a handicap though (for instance: a 2 on 1 just to make it interesting).

      But this guy was just asking for it. If he had won, he wouldn't be complaining. I dread to think about the circumstances of the matches he had against the "many RDMs" that he "beat"

      Interestingly enough, I never shield blocked so much in my life. O_o
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      • #4
        Re: RDM vs BLU

        I took out a taru rdm/nin once in ballista 1v1. Blizzaga3>stun>silence>sleep>Blizzard4>dead taru.
        He then proceeded to come back and rape me.
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        • #5
          Re: RDM vs BLU

          Originally posted by Cotners View Post
          He then proceeded to come back and rape me.
          LoL, I fscking hate BLM/RDM in Ballista.

          /shake-fist
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          • #6
            Re: RDM vs BLU

            We are pretty much one hit wonders... after that we are pretty fragile.
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            • #7
              Re: RDM vs BLU

              Originally posted by Cotners View Post
              We are pretty much one hit wonders... after that we are pretty fragile.
              Like 3 min Fire Mages in WoW. Yes, every 3 min, they can take down even the best epicced monsters* out there in just 3 casts.

              Outside of that 3 minute ... they can be taken down in under 3 hits

              *monsters I mean Tauren warriors with over 16k in health...

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              • #8
                Re: RDM vs BLU

                sore losers are just well, sore.

                good for you wm3k. i love it when idiots get their asses handed to them.

                now... to take my rng to ballista and hunt some ppl down.
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                • #9
                  Re: RDM vs BLU

                  I don't mind a playful round of ballista/brenner with friends from time to time. And we'll set rules for varying matches like no silence et cetera. But I don't think you can say one job is better than the other with such rules in place.

                  I get lucky a few times on rdms on my blm, but I doubt I could 1 on 1 a well prepared rdm like yourself that's made a sport of ballista. Perhaps a lucky kill here or there but nothing consistant.

                  Blu sounded like he just wanted to show his fancy moves off and you didn't play nice. Too bad for him

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                  • #10
                    Re: RDM vs BLU

                    Well, its his fault for not bringing Echo Drops, really. A well-timed Head Butt can stun silence, too.

                    Any RDM that wins by "No Items" isn't really making the fight fair, but if items are allowed, well, you best come prepared.

                    I'm not totally convinced RDM is an absolute winner over BLU here, I think either job would be rather formidable when played right. I've done the RDM thing in uncapped Ballista, but I generally refuse to play any PvP that isn't a 60 cap.

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                    • #11
                      Re: RDM vs BLU

                      That means one player is better than other. I would say RDM has an edge because a BLU need to preset the proper spells in order to handle his task properly. On the other hand, RDM can cast whatever spells in his spell collection, change his plan or response to his situation freely (as long as he meets the require to cast that spell).

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                      That BLU is an example of ones who lacks understanding of RDM (his opponent) and lacks understanding of BLU (his own job)..... A Blue "Mage" who does not bring echo drops to battle, who does not attempt to stop a Red "Mage" from casting spell at the entry of the battle, is doomed.
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                      • #12
                        Re: RDM vs BLU

                        ^^ But there should have been a WHM there to Silena me!!111!

                        Common mentality nowadays, makes me sick.
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                        • #13
                          Re: RDM vs BLU

                          There are a few videos on YouTube of RDMs bust'n up some PUPs and BLUs. I mentioned this to a BLU in my LS and he was shocked. Why, I'm not sure, but shocked. Mentioned how the BLU was Silenced the entire time, he said the BLU was retarded and should have had Echo Drops. In most instances that makes perfect sense, but let's face it. That BLU's gonna run outta Echo Drops before I run outta MP.

                          I too have had problems taking out BLMs. Bastards and that Sleepga getting everybody before I can get off the poison potion, then just nuking the whole board. But I love when Blink eats Barrage or EES. Never underestimate my ability to get Blink & Stoneskin up!
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                          • #14
                            Re: RDM vs BLU

                            Hmm . . . it's quiet . . . too quiet . . .

                            *gunshot fires and zooms past head*

                            Now suddenly it's too loud! I prefered it when it was quiet . . .
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                            • #15
                              Re: RDM vs BLU

                              You beat the guy fair and square but I wouldnt go as far as saying Blu can be pwned,If they had paid as much attention to what spells they were going to use and what you were likely to use "Even as A lowly 54 Blu I know that Silence is a sure way to shut us down" Then things might have turned out diff or even made it a more entertaining PvP.
                              Next time They might think about learning there job before shooting their mouth off

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