Just a thought here ... (Maat related)

[Aksannyi]

How worth it would it be for me to level up my Ranged Weapon and pound Maat with a few ranged attacks whilst casting a nuke or two? Would the additional damage be even worth the bother?

From my standpoint right now, I don't see that it would really be worth it, but assuming I could maybe do about 50+ damage (grasping at straws here, I have absolutely NO idea what my RDM with the highest level bow/arrows I could equip could do in damage) ...

Could it work, if I kept Maat bound for a period of time, and during the casting of say, Aero III, I could knock into him with a few ranged hits, then immediately sleep him after casting ...

Do you think that adding a ranged attack macro to some spell macros could - for the hell of extra DD, I suppose - be a worthwhile endeavor?

Most likely I won't even bother with this scenario, and I'll take on Maat the usual way. But this kind of strategy just popped into my head and I wondered if maybe someone had tried it ... or if it would work?

I'm assuming, of course, that you can used a ranged weapon while casting, the same way that you can attack while casting. Of course, if that's not true (haven't tested it myself) then this entire post is a waste of space.

So anyway this is just a hypothesis, really. Feedback, even if you think I'm a moron, would be at least interesting.

[Mhurron]

Re: Just a thought here ... (Maat related)

I doubt using ranged would be worthwhile. Once you hit chainspell (which you probably will) you wont have time to hit a ranged macro and chainspell-Aero is how you'll do most of your damage.

[Aksannyi]

Re: Just a thought here ... (Maat related)

Well I meant before the Chainspell madness took place, of course. While you're doing your slow sleep-nuking thing.

I don't think it would really be worth it either, unless you could actually amass enough TP during the fight to send a WS his way, but that's assuming that you're not going to be changing weapons, which I most certainly would.

I don't know, I think maybe after I've beaten Maat for real I'll test it out and see what the damage is and if using RNGed could make any difference at all. Just trying to step outside the proverbial box.

[Jei]

Re: Just a thought here ... (Maat related)

Not worth it at all no. While you're aiming your bow, Maat will run up to you and serve you a few hot spicy Asurans. Range attacks are not instant. And when Maat gets close to you, it's out of optimal range too. If you're lucky to hit him with your arrow, they prolly do like 30-60 damage at best.

[Armando]

Re: Just a thought here ... (Maat related)

By the way, while I don't have much to add in terms of the question asked, I found this video while looking around on Allakhazam. Some dude actually meleed Maat down. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZGZhHdR4xU He got lucky to an extent (that One Inch Punch could've been an Asuran Fists) but still amusing to watch.

(I'm too lazy to look up how to embed the video into the post. Anyone care to enlighten me?)

[Aksannyi]

Re: Just a thought here ... (Maat related)

That's really cool, thanks for sharing it.

This kind of thing is really just fun to think about really.

[Sabaron]

Re: Just a thought here ... (Maat related)

With a D in Archery and Short Bow only, you're not going to dish out enough damage to make even a small dent in Maat's HP. It's so weak, you can't skill it up in XP party, so to even use it you have to level RNG. RDM70 Bow = RNG59 Bow skill, so Maat will essentially be an "IT" or "IT++" mob--You'd have to eat Ranged Accuracy food to make it useful and he'll either be nuking, debuffing, or punching you the whole time.

RDM Bow is a joke skill, but not nearly so as it's access to select Hand-to-Hand weapons. To even skill-up Bow, you're going to want to level RNG. You certainly don't have time to fire arrows, and you're not going to be pulling.

When I was a young RDM, I dreamed of mad skillz with many weapons (we have access to quite a few), but those dreams were dashed by the realization that we suck... (with most weapons). I've settled for Sword and Dagger.

[Armando]

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Disclaimer: I'm not trying to argue that shooting arrows would be worth it.

With a D in Archery and Short Bow only, you're not going to dish out enough damage to make even a small dent in Maat's HP. It's so weak, you can't skill it up in XP party, so to even use it you have to level RNG. RDM70 Bow = RNG59 Bow skill, so Maat will essentially be an "IT" or "IT++" mob--You'd have to eat Ranged Accuracy food to make it useful and he'll either be nuking, debuffing, or punching you the whole time.

Actually, not quite true. I've read of RDM/RNGs dropping some painful Sidewinders in Ballista. Also, shooting Maat with a Lv.59 RNG's bow skill at Level 70 isn't anything like being a Lv.59 RNG trying to shoot a Lv.70 mob. When fighting IT++ mobs, what hurts our Accuracy and Attack the most is, by far, the penalties the game imposes due to the level difference. In this case, that level difference penalty would be gone. She should be able to use a bow against Maat; the bigger question is whether or not that's worth it.

[WishMaster3K]

Re: Just a thought here ... (Maat related)

Come on, just ask, you know you want to.

Renarudo the Almighty Red, please fight Maat utilizing a bow so that we all know it's possible!

I'd be happy to oblige, honestly, I would. But without /rng, using a bow is useless.

Of course, that doesn't mean I won't RDM/RNG something just for fun....

[Shinhiryu_Kage]

Re: Just a thought here ... (Maat related)

You need to equip and enormous amount of +r.acc in order to make up for the giant gap our skill has at LV70 vs Maat's defense/evasion.

Possible? Sure, if you're rich. Doable? Sure, if you have no life and like to be a glutton for punishment. Worthwhile? If you're trying to kill Maat for your first time, save yourself the headache..... CS+Nuke the sumbish. Works everytime.

[Mhurron]

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Disclaimer: I'm not trying to argue that shooting arrows would be worth it.Actually, not quite true. I've read of RDM/RNGs

Yes, actually it is quite true, because of the bolded part above. As you probably know, you do not have access to a subjob so any ability that relies on a subjob is meaningless in the context of fighting Maat.

I'm sure a RDM/NIN could easilly melee Maat to death, but I'm not going to suggest that someone could melee Maat. Likewise, a RDM/RNG could probably make a bow work but RDM/[nothing] couldn't.

[Altae]

Re: Just a thought here ... (Maat related)

RDM skill in bows isn't too bad. You can deal some nifty 60 damage per shot with Demon Arrows on mobs who are the same level as you. Even in Ballista, a shot from a RDM ranged attack hurts decently.

Although, you will indeed need some massive enhancement to ranged accuracy. And versus Maat, you don't want to engage him with weak defense equipment just for the sake of enhanced ranged accuracy.

Also, just as everyone else had mentioned, it would not be worthwhile to engage Maat as RDM70/RNG0. Even if your subjob is still RNG, it is level 0 which acts the same as not having a subjob. And without the RNG subjob, you do not have access to the bow weaponskills, RNG abilities, and the bonus attributes for your attack and accuracy. Because remember, it doesn't matter whether you have the gained status of a RNG subjob presence, you can't play a level 0 RNG. You can't play any job at level 0.

[WishMaster3K]

Re: Just a thought here ... (Maat related)

Grendal melee-fought Maat at 75 just for the heck of it sometime ago. And I'm not sure how he was in terms of merits, cause this was approximately 2 years in the past.

Needless to say, he whooped the poor old man. So it's possible to fight Maat without the usage of nukes. Doing it with bows would just be for an added thrill. I CS+Thunder IIIed him just for my embarassment the first time I fought him, but it wasn't gratifying.