Potency of Enfeebling Magic

[ItazuraNhomango]

Re: Potency of Enfeebling Magic

Some blowhard in my LS today was leveling RDM (only 26), and he decided to tell me about how Paralyze is useless (of all the spells to say that about!).

At Lv.55/56 fighting Lesser Colibri, Paralyze proc'ed 7.36% when I managed to land it as SCH/WHM (in not so amazing, synch'ed down gear, and with no MND food). Parser reported the average duration was 92 seconds.

For 6 MP and less than 3 second cast time, able to neutralize ~7% of a monster's melee rounds for over a minute and a half is an amazingly good investment.

[Raydeus]

Re: Potency of Enfeebling Magic

I tried to find good information, but there's not much available beyond what's already been said. I would say that "Blind Effect" is equivalent to "Accuracy Penalty", but I have no basis for that statement.

I tried searching Bluegartr, but all discussions involving Blind II devolved into sh!t-tossing and conjecture...

Guess I'll have to test it myself, just need to check out on the methodology to do so.

[Sabaron]

Re: Potency of Enfeebling Magic

At Lv.55/56 fighting Lesser Colibri, Paralyze proc'ed 7.36% when I managed to land it as SCH/WHM (in not so amazing, synch'ed down gear, and with no MND food). Parser reported the average duration was 92 seconds.

For 6 MP and less than 3 second cast time, able to neutralize ~7% of a monster's melee rounds for over a minute and a half is an amazingly good investment.

Paralyze II is my primary RDM Enfeebling Merit at level 5...

Try level 5 with Elemental Seal and Ice Shot on your favorite relatively strong mob...

I have one point each in Slow II and Blind II and am debating where I should put my last 3 points (one of the following):

Slow II - 4 (Which I know I won't regret)
Phalanx II - 3 (Which is terribly nice and gives me a great additional buff)

and I can't decide... I've been using merits for DRG, so I'll have a while before I buy it. I just know it won't be Blind II. I like Blind II for the power on solo defense, primarily, but I cast it on everything anyway.

[Raydeus]

Re: Potency of Enfeebling Magic

How long does Para lvl5 usually last?

Mine always comes from Ice Spikes (specially now with Composure), and Para I is enough for other random stuff I do, so I wont be getting tier II for now.

But I haven't seen anyone in their right mind daring to skip Para effect, that's for sure.

[Murphie]

Re: Potency of Enfeebling Magic

At Lv.55/56 fighting Lesser Colibri, Paralyze proc'ed 7.36% when I managed to land it as SCH/WHM (in not so amazing, synch'ed down gear, and with no MND food). Parser reported the average duration was 92 seconds.

For 6 MP and less than 3 second cast time, able to neutralize ~7% of a monster's melee rounds for over a minute and a half is an amazingly good investment.

I kept telling him that, but it was like talking to a wall. This guy is an idiot, and a blowhard, and incapable of admitting that the things coming out of his mouth are incorrect. My favorite is when he backs it up by saying that he's a "veteran player" and thus we should just take what he says as gospel.

Not related to this, but he also told me yesterday that he got 22 levels in one party a few weeks ago. I asked him where/how, and his response was the whole "veteran player" spiel.

[Taskmage]

Re: Potency of Enfeebling Magic

Not related to this, but he also told me yesterday that he got 22 levels in one party a few weeks ago. I asked him where/how, and his response was the whole "veteran player" spiel.

Tangential and not to contradict your character assessment, but you can do this by getting some summoners into a low level sync party, having a high level character train an entire zone to them and using astral flow for an instant chain ~100. Repeat until you're out of 2 hours. 22 levels is probably an exaggeration, but if you start at level 1 and have a corsair for exp bonus and to restore 2 hours it doesn't sound entirely impossible.
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGWDoU2sbt0"]YouTube - FFXI Spelunking (aka SMN burn)[/ame]

[Murphie]

Re: Potency of Enfeebling Magic

He said he did it on PLD, in a normal party setup. He doesn't even have SMN unlocked. And the level range he was talking about was 28-50.

[Mhurron]

Re: Potency of Enfeebling Magic

Some blowhard in my LS today was leveling RDM (only 26), and he decided to tell me about how Paralyze is useless (of all the spells to say that about!). I'm glad someone bumped this thread, because I had forgotten about it.

I of course did my best to explain how wrong he was.

You have a real winner of a LS there.

[Murphie]

Re: Potency of Enfeebling Magic

Actually everyone else is awesome. He's just an idiot.

So anyway, enfeebles! Awesome stuff, eh?

[Yellow Mage]

Re: Potency of Enfeebling Magic

Moral of the story, use Absorb-MND or Shock before you do your debuffing cycle for a bit of a boost. Absorb-MND is actually a huge boost if you can land it then fire off Slow right away, that's a 24-point swing in MND.

Dang. Too bad I have no plans to level Black Magic subjobs. <_<

I'll try to keep any Dark Knights or Black Mages I run across informed of this fact, tho.

[Callisto]

Re: Potency of Enfeebling Magic

I'm almost done meritting jobs so I think at some point I'm going to finally go back and test the Paralyze dMND > Potency function, I have a short stint of temp work coming up but afaik it's back to unemployment with me after that's over, hopefully in a few weeks I'll have time for it.

[Cotners]

Re: Potency of Enfeebling Magic

Dang. Too bad I have no plans to level Black Magic subjobs. <_<

I'll try to keep any Dark Knights or Black Mages I run across informed of this fact, tho.

What level is your RDM now YM?

[Callisto]

Re: Potency of Enfeebling Magic

At Lv.55/56 fighting Lesser Colibri, Paralyze proc'ed 7.36% when I managed to land it as SCH/WHM (in not so amazing, synch'ed down gear, and with no MND food). Parser reported the average duration was 92 seconds.

For 6 MP and less than 3 second cast time, able to neutralize ~7% of a monster's melee rounds for over a minute and a half is an amazingly good investment.

Just curious, what parser/settings did you use that tracked this info? I currently use DirectParse but I haven't really messed with defensive settings.

[Yellow Mage]

Re: Potency of Enfeebling Magic

What level is your RDM now YM?

Still 30, and it's going to be that way for a while, as I'm working Paladin (33) at the moment, and after that comes White Mage and Blue Mage, all of them to 40 eventually. I'm actually focusing on obtaining my RSE at the moment (read: not doing much in game, procrastinating stuff until my dang RSE week in Ordelle's Caves comes at a reasonable time), but I do plan to participate in the Mog Bonanza and Adventurer Appreciation, as well (Feast of Swords doesn't interest me too much, and I did it last year, anyway).

[Callisto]

Re: Potency of Enfeebling Magic

I was tempted to level RDM again on my alt just because he came with full Baron's gear and a bunch of other whitebox junk that I either couldn't afford or didn't exist when I originally leveled mine, I bet it'd be really fun to level with fully HQ'd gear, capped magic skills, and a better understanding of the job, lol.