Looking for an endgame Taru RDM/PLD

[Desideratum]

Re: Looking for an endgame Taru RDM/PLD

There are MMOs out there that will have their security compromised if their players let slip that they are playing?

Crazy.

Everyone else has already pretty much summed up anything I would have said. I do agree with the most recent posts though, that leveling your Paladin without a Warrior Subjob will be painfully difficult. You won't get party invites, and solo will be slow and tedious. Heck, leveling your initial job pre-subjob to 18 solo will also be slow and tedious. This game is based around party play. While you certainly can solo through many stretches, you won't be doing it as fast or as enjoyably (that's up for debate, of course) as most people.

Still, all the best. I hope you get what you're looking for in FFXI.

[Yellow Mage]

Re: Looking for an endgame Taru RDM/PLD

Thanks, and I'll research a way to deal with the low-level Paladin problem.

BTW, in my research, I found an earring that "Enhances Dual Wield" called the Suppanomimi, wearable by any job at 72. Does this GIVE Dual Wield to the equipper? A little off-topic, but my curiosity got aroused. . .

And, also btw, it's not that MMORPG's security I'm really worried about, it's just mentioning competition on a board about one specific MMORPG seems a little. . .taboo, no?

[Desideratum]

Re: Looking for an endgame Taru RDM/PLD

No. It only enhances the ability if you already have it. Which means using Ninja as either a main or sub job.

[Jei]

Re: Looking for an endgame Taru RDM/PLD

Thanks, and I'll research a way to deal with the low-level Paladin problem.
BTW, in my research, I found an earring that "Enhances Dual Wield" called the Suppanomimi, wearable by any job at 72. Does this GIVE Dual Wield to the equipper? A little off-topic, but my curiosity got aroused. . .

No. That ear ring gives you 0.05 second cut between each swing I think. And you need either main or sub ninja to be able to dual wield.
It is a reward from battle 5 crystal warriors at once. Something you won't be doing until you're at least 73.

[Taskmage]

Re: Looking for an endgame Taru RDM/PLD

Nope, unfortunately. You still have to sub nin to dual wield with Suppa. Most equipment that "enhances" a trait you don't natually have will give it to you, but not that one. Still a heck of a nice earring if you're using a sword though.

[Yellow Mage]

Re: Looking for an endgame Taru RDM/PLD

Thanks for the Suppa info: unfortunately, I may have to choose the Knightly Earring instead, as I see you may only do the quest once.

[Aeni]

Re: Looking for an endgame Taru RDM/PLD

Second, I would like to thank all of you for info and constructive critisism. I understand what my priorities would be. Except, I kind of had it formatted like this:

I just wanted to let you know that I was merely trying to help you avoid the common pitfalls for most new players in an MMO or any other game. That is setting yourself up for disappointments. I personally had 2 friends who did this (They researched the game as much as they could possibly do 2 years ago and decided on the job combinations and equipment choices dotting "i"s and crossing "t"s)

When they discovered the harsh reality, they were so jaded and disappointed that they simply quit. I do not wish this on any new player and certainly not someone as yourself, who has shown a keen interest in the game.

I do wish you all the best, but just remember that sometimes it's best to let the game open up to you rather than trying to throttle it into submission.

[Taskmage]

Re: Looking for an endgame Taru RDM/PLD

Thanks for the Suppa info: unfortunately, I may have to choose the Knightly Earring instead, as I see you may only do the quest once.

I disagree with your choice, but it's good that you know your resources. There will be plenty of time for those kinds of decisions, as with your endgame sub.

[ItazuraNhomango]

Re: Looking for an endgame Taru RDM/PLD

I think Yellow Mage will be fine, as long as he is flexible enough to change course once he starts playing the actual game.

And, if you can solo RDM to 18 w/out a support job, you can solo PLD/RDM to 20+ w/out much problem. Getting all the way to 37 solo will be more difficult, so WAR18 is still necessary.

Not partying "as soon as possible" has some bonuses as well; with his plan to level multiple jobs, he'll have many skills at/near cap by the time he starts to do group work. And, probably the gils to fund decent equipement, too. FFXI is not toally inflexible regarding when to start partying, I think.

One thing I'd add, though: treat whatever job you're leveling at the moment like it's your main job--play it well and with pride. ^_^ (This often has unexpected side benefits--tanking on PLD and NIN gave me the much needed timing skills for solo'ing on RDM, for example.)

[Jei]

Re: Looking for an endgame Taru RDM/PLD

I don't think getting skill to near cap will be possible solo levelling up tho. After level 10 or so, even decent challenge can be quite dangerous. Fighting easy/decent won't get your skill to cap. And anything stronger than that, I don't know, not really good choice to solo for me.

[Aeni]

Re: Looking for an endgame Taru RDM/PLD

Not partying "as soon as possible" has some bonuses as well; with his plan to level multiple jobs, he'll have many skills at/near cap by the time he starts to do group work.

This is certainly not possible with any job outside of BST after level 10. For a subjobless job, this can be early as level 8 or 9 (EM is the minimum level you can get skill and dependant on the job rating of that skill as well)

For example, a WHM at level 15 will be hardpressed at keeping Divine capped. Now, that's an extreme example, but it illustrates just how difficult that idea can be.

[ItazuraNhomango]

Re: Looking for an endgame Taru RDM/PLD

>_> ok, I was in a hurry, and was wrong. (Was thinking about my woeful melee skills.) I guess I should revise that to say "some skills" may be "kept higher" by solo'ing, such as healing magic, shield, evasion, and sword skills...
Heck, maybe even parrying may sort of go up... At least a little.
Anyway, I just don't want to the OP to feel like he can't play the game his way at all. Solo'ing RDM/--- to Lv.18 should be possible, though I'm not sure if it would be enjoyable.

[Icemage]

Re: Looking for an endgame Taru RDM/PLD

Soloing any job above 15 is rather painful. There are some ways around it though. For RDM, it's "somewhat" possible, if you can tough it out to 14, to solo your way up through about 20, by abusing Maze Makers in the Maze of Shakrami and Land Worms in Korroloka Tunnel. Trade long distance magic with them, eventually use Silence at 18 to help cut down on your downtime.

This isn't really a fast way (nor particularly safe for new players), but it's at least "a" way to do it.


Icemage

[Yellow Mage]

Re: Looking for an endgame Taru RDM/PLD

The advice and thoughts keep coming, though I'm a bit worried. . .

Is there ANY way around leveling Warrior? Because I am kind of stingy on the whole "no MP" thing. . .am I just being a wuss, or is there another way?

And by the way, why are people suggesting I get Monk to 9 or something? Every time I see somebody post that, it seems a little out of the blue and confusing to me.

[Murphie]

Re: Looking for an endgame Taru RDM/PLD

Warrior is a very useful main and sub job. That's probably why everyone is suggesting it. And seriously, Paladin is one of the rare jobs that really benefits a lot from having one particular sub (that sub being Warrior). Without it, they are almost useless for most of the game.

It's just a game mechanics fact, unfortunately.