RDM endgame question

[IxX3xil3d0n3XxI]

after trying other jobs, mnk, pld...sam...i realize that rdm is the only job for me, is my calling
I want to be a very good rdm, and i believe half of that is being versitle.

Right now im lvling nin to 37, then drk to 37 , whm to 37. blm is alrealdy 38 so i think im set in the sub job department. is there any subs that would help for endgame activities such as dynamis, gods. thank you ^^

[Murphie]

Re: RDM endgame question

BRD is one to consider. Maybe SMN? But otherwise you have everything covered.

[Raydeus]

Re: RDM endgame question

Those subs you have already leveled are the main ones we use.

I'd add PLD, WAR and THF to the list, and maybe RNG, but then again those are the subs I've leveled


RDM/PLD with a Rune Blade is my choice if I'm fighting Undead mobs, for Arcana and magic mobs /DRK, /THF for farming or DDing looking for keys and stuff, /WAR if you gotta tank something for someone else, RNG for nice damage if you are fighting weak mobs etc.

Our job is drasticaly affected by our sub so the more options you have the better


Edit> Oh BRD and SMN Hmm...I've never even considered those, but BRD seems to be very useful for manaburns and stuff like that, and for SMN I still need Diabolos but might be fun to try.

[Murphie]

Re: RDM endgame question

BRD I know can be a viable option, but I just tossed SMN out as a possibility because I wasn't sure.

[tdh]

Re: RDM endgame question

I've been mulling over this /SMN idea for about 10 minutes now. And I can't think of any point in which ~I've~ wished I had /SMN sub.

In the 50's I did a handful of Manaburns, where I really wished I had /BRD. Now that I'm doing TP Burn parties in Sky for Merits, I'm wishing I already had WHM leveled. I do a fair amount of soloing, and killing AF mobs for LS members, so a fully leveled NIN sub would be REALLY nice, just I'm a little strapped for gil, and I'm trying to raise gil for my Hauby for DRK58, WAR51, and SAM41.

Having RNG sub would be nice for RDM, just so we can Skill Up Archery, and actually use Sidewinder just for the heck of it, but I can't think of any reason other than fun and/or ENMs that RDM would need /RNG.

I fell in love with WAR while leveling it as a subjob for DRK and SAM, so I've now vowed to take it to the top of the Mountain, but subing WAR is nice for Skill Ups(Double Attack + Defender), and for Vorpal Blade. (Though I will not deny that Souleater Vorpal Blade is MUCH better damage, and you still have Drain, Aspir, and Stun.)

But check out the sticky in the Red Mage Forums about subjobs. It's been a while since I've read over it, but I believe there has been an addition to it talking about endgame subs and what job traits/abilities you might benefit from.

[Aeni]

Re: RDM endgame question

What, no NIN?

/panic

[Jei]

Re: RDM endgame question

normally, /whm /blm /brd. function quite the same.
if you're in tank PT, Rdm/Smn.
if you need chain stun, rdm/drk.

rdm/nin is for solo not really for end game.

[Murphie]

Re: RDM endgame question

What, no NIN?

/panic

The OP mentioned NIN as one of the subs he (or she) is already leveling.

[Matera]

Re: RDM endgame question

{True Strike} : Rdm is vastly effected by the sub.

Whm, Blm, Thf, War, Drk, Brd and Nin are fairly important, AFAIK. Smn, as mentioned, would be good in a tank PT.

Blu and Pld I can see being good, but Pld less than other things and Blu, well, so far it's mostly speculation, but Cocoon, Phalanx, Stoneskin, Metallic Body, and Bad Breath... Well, you're probably fairly unhurtable, but it might just be better to sub Ninja for solo work... Less effort to kep the damage down, and dual Weilding for TP and added effects, among other things.

[Aeni]

Re: RDM endgame question

rdm/nin is for solo not really for end game.

I think soloing Bune is end game. What do you think?

[Icemage]

Re: RDM endgame question

For non-solo HNM and other end-game activities, /DRK, /BLM, /WHM as the occasion calls for.

/BRD is sometimes useful in certain manaburn configurations, as well as when in a nuker party in dynamis or HNM alliances.

/SMN somewhat useful in tank parties for HNM, but not terribly important.

/NIN, /BST and /BLU for various solo tasks.

Most other subs generally not worth it worrying about at end-game unless you do PvP.


Icemage

[Sigmara]

Re: RDM endgame question

/SMN before /DRK or /NIN imo.

/SMN can get you a pearl of an HNM LS more than another other, because it's really rarer and wanted as much ( if not more ). At least that was the case for me.

[Kirsteena]

Re: RDM endgame question

I've found that most rdm don't level drk, and frankly at endgame I have never used rdm/smn - we require our whm to have smn levelled and we just swap in and out as necessary.

Drk levelled - oh yes. If anything it will save me from being Suzaku's ritual sacrifice for once...

Other than that - what everyone else has said.

[Kafeen]

Re: RDM endgame question

/SMN before /DRK or /NIN imo.

/SMN can get you a pearl of an HNM LS more than another other, because it's really rarer and wanted as much ( if not more ). At least that was the case for me.

I'd disagree, while /SMN can have its uses /DRK its much more sort after by HNMLS's.

[arkaine23]

Re: RDM endgame question

These four can be used in parties or at least special situations.
/whm
/blm
/drk
/brd
(/war if you're needed to tank a mission or something)

These 5 are good for soloing/farming/skilling-up and you might occaisionally be asked to sub some of them in a party that already has another red mage, provided you mention you have millions of gil in DD gear and/or sword & crit merits and the macros to make use of it. At least, I've been asked to /nin and be a DD two or three times now lol.
/nin
/war
/pld
/thf
/blu