Skill ups: Parrying

[trackeroc]

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*looks around sheepishly* It ain't over 150. >.>

/wave Raydeus ^^

[rrynn]

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i have tried chigs, but personally i like the "pack of onions" in tree method. since the black ones check as EM at 75, theoretically you could go all the way to capped without ever leaving the zone. gather as many onions as you can safely take on at a time and get them all in front of you (thats the hardest part actually) and engage with a weapon you wont kill them very quickly with (been slowly skilling up my spoon...er wand at the same time).

[Kitalrez]

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I fight Chigoes because they spawn from Sheep when they WS. So how do I fight them? Kill the sheep and keep them alive?

Ah well. Any WS instant kills them, but you don't get EXP.

With my EXP ring, I get about 90 exp from the sheep and 58 from each Chigoe.

With Cheviot Cape, Jelly Ring, Genbu and Phalanx I can straight tank em without Stoneskin.

You could kill sheep, but it's easier to just find some random chigoes and use them, skillups tend to be faster when you have 2-3 of them on ya, rather than just the one. There are a bunch in Caedarva Mire, almost any time you come to a spot where there's a tunnel between two seconds, there will be chigoes at one end. They sight aggro, and don't show up on widescan or become targettable until aggro'd. You can usually detect them by moving the camera to an overhead angle and looking down, however, they have little black shadows when seen from that angle.

Also, they don't die w/o exp on WSs, just WS with a built-in crit, and only if that crit would do less than the chigoe's total hp. If I whip out Garuda and use Predator Claws on one for 1050 dmg, I get full exp off the bugger. Any other type of critical hit will destroy a chigoe. Yeah, you run out of Caedarva chigoes that can give you skillups after awhile, but as far as a really quick bridge to get skills up to the point mobs closer to your level give skillups, Chigoes are hard to beat.

[Atma]

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Here's something I've found useful.

Level BLU up to at least level 8 for Cocoon.

Find an EP mob that attacks very quickly, but not for much at a time.

Throw up ProtIII/4, Cocoon, Phalanx and Stoneskin. You now have a virtually inpenetrable to EP mobs defensive wall. Just keep cocoon and phalanx up and refresh stoneskin when you need to.

A friend of mine tried this against a DC mob and said his stoneskin lasted about a minute and a half.

[Byrthnoth]

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Here is what I use:
Parrying Torque, Duel Rapier, Master's Shield, Parrying Earring, AF

I pull an Orcish Champion to zone in Monastic Caverns. I slowly, slowly kill it. I was level 63 when I started doing this, and level 65 when I quit. I probably got 20-30 levels of parrying off ~15 mobs successfully killed. While the 75 + Mandies in Boyoda is probably a quicker way to go, this way worked too. Also, I strongly recommend using the Parrying Skill + Gear, as it increases the proc rate and so the skillup rate. It's exceptionally useful when your skill is a little . . . lacking . . like mine was. I'm level 68 now, and I intend to cap Parrying and Shield before physically defeating Maat, and I'll probably do it using Orcish Champions.

[BurningPanther]

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Duel Rapier? Never heard of that one. Where do you get it?

[zagex]

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Appearantly you get them from the mob that drops Valkyrie's Mask. I was looking at that a while back because of the +parry, and they were around 10k on the AH and gets put up there fairly often. My parry's a chunk lower than shield skill (about 102 parry compared to 120 shield), so I was thinking of dual wielding them if shield skillups ever die down from chigoes.

[arkaine23]

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Nothing beats Chigoes. I've never really taken the time to level Shield or Parry skill, and went from 102 Shield and 39 Parry to 120 Shield and 51 Parry in less than 2 hours at RDM72.

Phalanx + Stoneskin + Aquaveil should let you easily survive one. At level 75, with a Jelly Ring and Cheviot Cape and maybe a Genbu's Shield you can probably survive three Chigoes simultaneously.

I wouldn't try more than one at a time at RDM70, though.


Icemage

I was able to survive 3 caederva mire chigoes indefinitely at level 75, without any damage -% gear or defensive food. I wore my standard attack build melee equips, and went to the spawn point near a cave by where you get the lamia fang key. I moved to the side of the path and targeted a nearby leech and got the 3 chigoes in front of me. I was /blm and used sleepga on the occaisions I wanted to convert (although circle blade will destroy them all and you can wait for their quick respawn). Just keep up phalanx, stoneskin, aquaveil, protect 4, and regen as needed. Wear sword sheild if you want both parry and shield skillups. Parry procs before shield does so it will not significantly reduce your parry skillups. Parry will go slower than shield. After sheild hit 170 or so it stopped skilling up compeltely, so at that point I switch to earth staff.

I'd think at 70+ you can probably handle 2 safely, provided you have capped or near-capped enhancing magic. Play it safe and get used to what's required to sustain a constant barrage of attacks until you're very comforatable with it. 1, 2, or 3, skillups are still going to be quite fast.

Mouriche's and Korrigans in the Tree can also provide skillups in those upper 150-175ish levels. Puks in the Cauldron should take it to cap. you can probably only safely manage 1 Korrigan or Puk at level 75, and be careful because they link. It just gets slow near the top end of the skills no matter what you do. Best mobs are monk-type because phalanx is most effective against weak hits, and you get the most skillups when mobs are double/triple attacking you.

[zagex]

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Alright, I'm motivated again now that I have more levels under my belt compared to when I first tried chigoes. 123 Shield, 103 Parry, going with my Royal Guard's Fleuret, Master's Shield, and AF gloves/boots.

Also I was thinking Rdm/Nin and 2 duel rapiers after shield gets capped off chigoes, instead of going with an earth staff.

Also, I went to the spot there, and do you have to keep moving or something? Because either the leech keeps moving too close, and I have to prevent myself from hitting it or it moves too far and I'll automatically disengage.

[Avoklex]

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I totally forgot about +Parry equipment. Damn, I should look into that stuff for my NIN ><

[zagex]

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/sigh... got disconnected while fighting chigoes, login face down...

[arkaine23]

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The leech I was referring to....

You'll notice it roams up and down that hill where the chigoes spawn in a set path. There is space to be off to the side up against the wall, and if you're facing parallel to the path of the leech, you will never attack it. Or you can just get in the practice of disengaging from the leech for a few seconds to let it pass, or unlocking from it without disengaging and moving to a safer position.

[Raydeus]

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Has anybody seen lvl 75 Chigoes I can skill up from, I still need 20 levels to cap parry even though our skill is only E (200 at lvl 75).

Right now I'm having a lot of trouble finding mobs to skill up from.

[zagex]

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http://ffxi.somepage.com/mobdb/list.php?family=114

The NM chigoe from the repeatable quest maybe? Other than that, those are the levels that somepage claims they're at.

[arkaine23]

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I was hopeful about the NM plague chigoe, but it turned out I could not safely melee it due to enaspir on every hit it made. I held it for a bit with meleeing, then slept, rested, and sleep/nuked it to death. 0 skillups.