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  • #46
    Re: Avesta vs. Charybdis

    Probably has maxed out enfeebling and ice accuracy merits for starters. Avesta does have some incredible gear though.
    lagolakshmi on Guildwork :: Lago Aletheia on Lodestone

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    • #47
      Re: Avesta vs. Charybdis

      I think RDM/PLD would also be a good combo to try this fight with. Auto Refresh to help make up for the Dalmatica/Duelist's Chapeau you probably don't have (Avesta didn't even keep these equipped for the entire fight due to needing to macro in other stuff for casting), Flash to hopefully avoid at least most of an incoming volley of attacks. I don't know what sort of defensive abilities you'd get out of /37PLD but those ought to also be useful.


      I'd be interested to know how he doesn't get resisted later on in fights. He must have some insane enfeebling gear to consistently land bind on notorious monsters.
      Bind resistance probably doesn't increase (Gravity resistance usually does on most NMs though, which is why he seemed to use this less often). He does get one Bind resist during the fight though.

      But yes, if you want to talk about decked out RDMs, I'm sure Avesta is pretty much at or near the top.

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      • #48
        Re: Avesta vs. Charybdis

        Originally posted by Fynlar
        I think RDM/PLD would also be a good combo to try this fight with. Auto Refresh to help make up for the Dalmatica/Duelist's Chapeau you probably don't have (Avesta didn't even keep these equipped for the entire fight due to needing to macro in other stuff for casting), Flash to hopefully avoid at least most of an incoming volley of attacks. I don't know what sort of defensive abilities you'd get out of /37PLD but those ought to also be useful.
        Nothing that a subbed PLD has at those levels are any use. In fact, the defensive traits that kick in don't become as meaningful until post 50s PLD. That means that the job trait is very weak for a RDM to sub. Also, Flash isn't MP free, so saying you're getting a useful item isn't right if you're not comparing value-per-mp ratio.

        BLU is far superior choice. Mind you, negating damage completely means saved MP, so you're not going to miss that 1 mp/tick. You can pretty much get on the spot mp/tick slapping on a Yag Drink or other similar items which would be far better to be sure.

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        • #49
          Re: Avesta vs. Charybdis

          Yagudo drink doesn't stack with refresh, nor is it noticably superior in terms of mp gained over time.

          Sure, hp saved = mp saved. I was just surprised that Cocoon turned out to be better in terms of mp efficiency than Defense Bonus I & II plus Sentinel and Auto-Refresh. Then again, I wasn't taking Conserve MP from blu into account when I said that either. I'm also probably underestimating the effect of +50% defense on rdm armor.
          lagolakshmi on Guildwork :: Lago Aletheia on Lodestone

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          • #50
            Re: Avesta vs. Charybdis

            Nothing that a subbed PLD has at those levels are any use. In fact, the defensive traits that kick in don't become as meaningful until post 50s PLD. That means that the job trait is very weak for a RDM to sub. Also, Flash isn't MP free, so saying you're getting a useful item isn't right if you're not comparing value-per-mp ratio.

            BLU is far superior choice. Mind you, negating damage completely means saved MP, so you're not going to miss that 1 mp/tick. You can pretty much get on the spot mp/tick slapping on a Yag Drink or other similar items which would be far better to be sure.
            I'm not saying the defensive traits/abilities would compare to Cocoon, I'm just saying it beats having nothing, plus I was mostly referring to Auto-Refresh and Flash anyway. Yes, it's not MP free, but neither is Cocoon, and you're not getting Auto-Refresh out of a BLU sub. AR would probably at least come close to negating the extra MP cost of Flash over Cocoon, I'm thinking. Depending on how well Flash works on this guy, both that and Cocoon could come close to negating the same amount of damage.

            In any case, I don't think you're giving the combo enough credit. I haven't gone and said anything like "it would definitely be superior to /BLU", I'm just saying that it looks like another viable job combo that could pull this off if they played their cards right.

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