RDM Pet Peeves

[Aeni]

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Pet peeve #103...

Having to refresh 5/6 party members. That just blows. I realize that by the time I'm done with refresh cycles and squeezing in enfeebling and dispel in between, I have absolutely no way of sitting down to rest and getting decent amount of mp.

My god, I'm the kind of RDM that needs a VC And sub SMN >_> Not sure how you RDMs do it, but it feels like a lost cause if the party is a wee-bit too low for the mobs in an area and your PLD is sucking MP faster than you can feed it >_>

And to all you hasters out there: I never have asked for Haste even once since I took up DRK 2+ years ago. You'd be surprised at how little attention I receive with Hastes. I think I can count on my hand the number of RDMs or WHMs that have actually given me haste in a party.

If you think you know anything about high delay weapons, think again. Haste does make a difference >_>

[WishMaster3K]

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For DRKs, absolutely. I'll skip the TP whoring WAR and give Haste to any other melee up there. Especially DRK/THF, who are gimping their dps just for SATA. I feel really bad for those jobs.

I LOVE it when the other melee bitch and want to argue in /t (even /p) that certain jobs shouldn't get Haste over others. I even love it when those jobs arguing me are WARs, MNKs or DRGs: Jobs with no shortage of TP problems. EsPECIALLY WARs with TP whortastic weaps like a Joyeuse or Ridill.

If I'm refreshing more than 4 people, chances are I'm in a sky event or something else, meaning that Refresh is all I'll NEED to do. No way in hell I'm refreshing 4+ jobs, and there aren't other jobs in the pt to pick upthe slack that would kill my MP pool to cover.

[Aeni]

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For DRKs, absolutely. I'll skip the TP whoring WAR and give Haste to any other melee up there. Especially DRK/THF, who are gimping their dps just for SATA. I feel really bad for those jobs.

I LOVE it when the other melee bitch and want to argue in /t (even /p) that certain jobs shouldn't get Haste over others. I even love it when those jobs arguing me are WARs, MNKs or DRGs: Jobs with no shortage of TP problems. EsPECIALLY WARs with TP whortastic weaps like a Joyeuse or Ridill.

If I'm refreshing more than 4 people, chances are I'm in a sky event or something else, meaning that Refresh is all I'll NEED to do. No way in hell I'm refreshing 4+ jobs, and there aren't other jobs in the pt to pick upthe slack that would kill my MP pool to cover.

My DRK would love you long time...

[Icemage]

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There's a reason I use RDM/BRD. Works great if you're Taru with a naturally high MP pool.


Icemage

[WishMaster3K]

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My DRK would love you long time...

I love you Brokeback-style, Aeni >.>

[Khidir]

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whats VC? Rdm/smn is sorta ok for pt use as long as you have blm and whm in the pt then you have sort of a free rein

Double Post Edited:
forgot to add giving aerial armor to a pt with a gimp sub= looks on faces priceless

i don't have garuda unlocked but i want to try it when i get back

[Jei]

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if your main role is refresh, rdm/brd will work so well without having to be a taru I think >.>
ballad will give us back 40-80mp per refresh cycle, more than enough to refresh up to 4 other members easily.
I used to be the main mp healer for my HNMLS with 5 other BLM. Without /Brd I wouldn't be able to keep up the MP orz... VC makes it easier.

[Gwynn]

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My biggest pet peeve is stuck up BLMs and WHMs who think they can dictate every little aspect of my job to me just because they have RDM at 75. Now, if they want to give me friendly advice, hey no prob! But when they start telling me every little thing to do and how to do it I get pissed. And yes, this has happened enough times to make it an annoying occurence.

Refreshing 5 people, and then the melees expecting to receive Haste on top of that is very annoying.

Melees who moan for Haste because they have horrible gear and can't keep up at all with their moderately equipped SC bud.

>.> Basically any job who expects me to go above and beyond the call of duty just to pick up their slack because they've either got crappy gear or crappy skills.

[Khidir]

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I hear you about other rdms acting like they own the job and think they are superior to others Gwynn! i would QFT but its banned at school...>.>'

[MikeDee]

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Refreshing 5 people, and then the melees expecting to receive Haste on top of that is very annoying.

It's annoying because you have to actually do work I guess.

What kind of XP PT was it where you have to refresh 5 people? Was there a DRG/WHM there or something? Mostly all higher level XP mobs have MP, if there's a DRK in there and they don't Aspir than they suck. I can understand on Statutes in Sky with PLD DRK WHM RDM BLM WAR but that's a mess for a RDM, lose the WHM get a BRD and go sub WHM.

So get off your high horse and suck it up. Eat a Marron Glace and haste the melle.

I bet you don't haste MNKs in KRT, have fun with XP Chain 6 in there ;3

[Gwynn]

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It's annoying because you have to actually do work I guess.

What kind of XP PT was it where you have to refresh 5 people? Was there a DRG/WHM there or something? Mostly all higher level XP mobs have MP, if there's a DRK in there and they don't Aspir than they suck. I can understand on Statutes in Sky with PLD DRK WHM RDM BLM WAR but that's a mess for a RDM, lose the WHM get a BRD and go sub WHM.

So get off your high horse and suck it up. Eat a Marron Glace and haste the melle.

I bet you don't haste MNKs in KRT, have fun with XP Chain 6 in there ;3

I get PLD DRK WHM BLM RDM parties quite a lot, actually. And I do eat Marron Glace. If the DRK actually use their MP, I'll put them in the Refresh cycle, usually every other. I'm not on a high horse, and I'm not trying to be disrespectful. I'm just saying that keeping up with all the enfeebles, refreshes, and then being expected to keep all the melees and tank hasted while the WHM doesn't help at all can get a tad frustrating.
And I've never been to Sky or a MNK party in KRT, I'm only 67.

[Jei]

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with mnk PT usually i don't haste either except when they got slowed. The XP chain you see in my sig, 72 chain, that was MNK KRT PT. 3 mnks, brd blm rdm. I actually spent most of my MP casting cure in that PT.
Usually the chain ends around 15-20. that 72 was exceptional I had to put it in my sig xD

[TheGrandMom]

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Yes, its annoying when every single melee in the pt is whining for haste and you have more important matters, like MP conservation!!, to worry about. (They whine if you don't haste ALL of them and then they whine when you run out of mp......just can't win with some people.) I think that its just they don't realize that 40 mp x every tank, melee, and whiner is a lot of mp to dish out and they've never had the pleasure of playing a mage job to learn about mp conservation. I see no reason to haste the war thats raping the mob, drawing hate, and sucking healing mp because of it. Ya you need haste......my arse! Ditto that same scenario for a mnk. There are right times to haste and right people to haste and it can only be determined on a pt to pt basis.

[Taskmage]

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Yea, 5 Refresh and 3 Haste is 320 mp every 3 minutes. Taking out the 110 we get back from refresh, that's still 700 mp every convert cycle. Doesn't leave a wholy bloody lot for Dispel, debuffs, curing ... not to mention that there will be precious little time between casting those buffs to work in other spells. Forget about getting a tick of rest.

[Tirrock]

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I've been hasted once that I can remember as my MNK. And that was due to a mistarget...they meant to haste somebody else. >_>a It doesn't really bother me. I can pull hate with pure melee with a tank that's slacking off.

DRK definately have haste priority of all melees to me. Well, unless you want to count NIN as a melee, then DRKs have second priority. Their TP gain is just painful. It needs all the help it can get.