Mithran RDM FTW?

[Aeni]

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I changed the color of spells so that I can see when I give someone a buff, but the ">>>>>" idea is pretty good, it would make it easier to see when I've refreshed someone.

I change the color of the chat log messages as well. I got a bright pink (that burns the LCD) for mob buffs (Ideally, I don't like the way SE has it set up so that color changes are indiscriminate for mob and party types of actions ... they need to break the customizing aspect up even further) I also changed the color of a couple of other things to make it really stand out. The problem with the default setting is that it was designed to "please" the eyes when all it really does is make things get blobbed up together and difficult to pick out from what you need in a log spam.

Which is why when I'm exp'ing and the LS gets to rowdy, I remove the pearl. I'm sorry, but I have a job to perform and that takes precedence over the stream of toilet humor

[WishMaster3K]

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Yeah, the LS thing. It's unlikely that a RDM from 55-73 is doing a good job in a standard pt if they can function in exp and still LS chatter. After 74. . Idk, I reached a level of Zen with my RDM abilities.

I know when my spells are gonna finish casting and the delays for things so that I seamlessly cast spells and such. I switch Macro groups effortlessly. . . Just keep plugging at it. You'll reach a point where you don't even need to try anymore ^^

[Taskmage]

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Does anyone know what, if anything, you change to edit the color of the text when Refresh or Silence wears off?

[BurningPanther]

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I've been looking for a way to edit the text color of spells worn off, and as yet have not found a way.

[WishMaster3K]

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OMG, there isn't a way, but if there was I'd be so happy. That's one thing I hate, to have to see a mob casting to realize that Silence wore off. . . .

[Aeni]

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Does anyone know what, if anything, you change to edit the color of the text when Refresh or Silence wears off?

I want to know about this too. As of now, the only way to really do this is through a 3rd party plugin with Windower. I'll just stop there (You can kind of see where that is going)

WishMaster, isn't it how funny that when you get into a zone as a RDM, you can do no wrong? And then the puller pulls a link and people say to zone but you're like "WTF? Don't run away! Don't run away! My refresh cycle is about to start and I can sleep one of those adds ... come back you *****************s!!!!"



That's how it was for me last night An odd JP party with 2x WHM, BLM, myself and PLD to refresh. SAM was our token TP go-getter ...

[Taskmage]

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lol! I thought it was just me. Everyone else bolts for the zone line and you're standing there alone going "but ... I've got it under control! .... Come back you cowards!"

[BurningPanther]

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I've come up against the same thing. It's good when I get to actually speak to my team in Ventrilo, and thell them, "No need to panic, I'll handle this". Otherwise, the fuckers will have all zoned/teleported/warped/escaped before I even had time to finish typing out the sentence.

[WishMaster3K]

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It's all give and take sometimes tho. Especially when the melee aren't communicating or are just plain retarded.

In Lufaise Meadows, those Birds resist sleep on me like no joke. Either that or it wears quick. So my retarded puller gets a REALLY bad pull. I'm talking Tavnazian Ram and Two Birds bad.

I sleep the two birds, but they have a habit of waking up. 2 people dead and the PLD had Invincible up ._.

So I cast Gravity on one Bird, sleep it, then I cast Bind on the other, sleep it, and I start trucking it to the zone.

Miraculously, Bound for a bit, slept, gravitied and slept, they caught up to me at the end of the tunnel and gave me a proper ass whuppin.

I like how mobs can chase you down from halfway across the effin map. Maybe that would have been a good time for Deoderize? ._.

[Aeni]

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The PLD in our party took an Abraxas and then tried to zone it. He 2HR'd and voked and the BLM ES+Binded the Abraxas. While WHM was busy getting MP back to fire up port, bind released about 8 seconds later and next thing you know ...

in three seconds flat, literally, the PLD was laid out dead.

... I thought that was hilarity in itself until 5 Abraxas were heading our way while the WHM was casting port ... omfg we barely got off with our lives.



Mind you, that's covering a full minute walk in that zone in just three seconds. Three god damn seconds. SE deserves an award for the most buggiest and crappiest AI-pathing ever.

[Aeni]

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Uhhh ... I was invited to my first "burn" PT last night. I sure hope this isn't the only way I can level up ...

Anyway ... so there's 4x BLMs, a BRD and myself. My RDM friend who's been in this situation before told me that I'm the puller and to pull with Gravity.

However, the BRD (Leader of PT) told me no ... and took it upon himself to pull. He'd pull with a song (I think it was either evasion down song or something) and would then run to camp and quickly cast Foe Lullaby.

Unfortunately, either this BRD didn't know this or was too busy to know this, the lullaby do not work nicely on Robber Crabs. Even the JP BLMs were comlpaining about this with each other (BRD was NA player) and I had to agree. About 20 minutes of this foolishness I whipped out Sleep II (If I was down on MP and convert not up, another BLM would do it for me) and it worked a LOT better.

Any thoughts on this? And if what my friend suggested about RDM having to pull instead while BRD worries more about giving INT boost songs to BLMs and keeping Ballads I & II up.

Forgot to add the strat: Sleep II > Aspir > Freeze x 4

Usually mobs die. If not, I have to either sleep it or gravity really quickly while the affected BLM kites a bit and another BLM casts Blizzard II.

[Icemage]

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Uhhh ... I was invited to my first "burn" PT last night. I sure hope this isn't the only way I can level up ...

Huh? Burn parties are a fantastic way to level up if you know what you're doing. They're really draining if you're a RDM though.

Anyway ... so there's 4x BLMs, a BRD and myself. My RDM friend who's been in this situation before told me that I'm the puller and to pull with Gravity.

This is only the case if you're RDM BLMx5. I've done it before but it's exhausting casting Refresh on 6 people.

However, the BRD (Leader of PT) told me no ... and took it upon himself to pull. He'd pull with a song (I think it was either evasion down song or something) and would then run to camp and quickly cast Foe Lullaby.

Unfortunately, either this BRD didn't know this or was too busy to know this, the lullaby do not work nicely on Robber Crabs. Even the JP BLMs were comlpaining about this with each other (BRD was NA player) and I had to agree. About 20 minutes of this foolishness I whipped out Sleep II (If I was down on MP and convert not up, another BLM would do it for me) and it worked a LOT better.

Huh? Foe Lullaby works fine on Robber Crabs. If the BRD isn't using Light/Apollo Staff and CHR gear it's a lot harder, but the real key is Blink and/or Stoneskin plus Earth Staff.

Any thoughts on this? And if what my friend suggested about RDM having to pull instead while BRD worries more about giving INT boost songs to BLMs and keeping Ballads I & II up.

If the above strat didn't work, it's because that bard sucked.

Forgot to add the strat: Sleep II > Aspir > Freeze x 4

Usually mobs die. If not, I have to either sleep it or gravity really quickly while the affected BLM kites a bit and another BLM casts Blizzard II.

Gravity? Sleep only. Don't waste MP on Sleep II unless you've already burned Sleep I on the monster and the recast isn't up yet, the mob doesn't need to be asleep long enough for the difference to matter. BLMs should be using Blink, Stoneskin and Drain as well (not to mention the BLMs can also just Stun it).


Icemage

[Aeni]

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Huh? Burn parties are a fantastic way to level up if you know what you're doing. They're really draining if you're a RDM though.

LOL I'd rather not. Refresh x5 (The BRD didn't need it -- Elvaan BRD with an MP pool that would make casting Refresh a waste of time) would take up most of the clock and at the rate the BRD was pulling, I couldn't sit and rest a single second. But... eventually towards the end, I managed not to go below 300 MP for the rest of the evening.... Guess I just need more practice with this sort of party.

This is only the case if you're RDM BLMx5. I've done it before but it's exhausting casting Refresh on 6 people.

Well, my RDM friend still thought it would be better since he thinks the BRD should be focusing on giving the BLMs Learned Etude (I think this is the +INT song, but correct me if I'm wrong here) instead. Which he only gave to one or two of the non-taru BLMs.

Huh? Foe Lullaby works fine on Robber Crabs. If the BRD isn't using Light/Apollo Staff and CHR gear it's a lot harder, but the real key is Blink and/or Stoneskin plus Earth Staff.

Well, he never buffed before pulling. He had a light staff and not sure about his gear (I don't /check and never bothered to ask him) However, lullaby wears off too quickly and with all the aspiring and casting of Freeze, that crab has to stay asleep for at least 25 seconds, if not more (I don't remember offhand how long it takes to cast Freeze ... but it seems almost eternity)

If the above strat didn't work, it's because that bard sucked.

Well, I'll take your word for it. This is only my 2nd time ever partying with a BRD, which comes as no surprise since you rarely see a RDM and a BRD together in traditional PT setups.

Gravity? Sleep only. Don't waste MP on Sleep II unless you've already burned Sleep I on the monster and the recast isn't up yet, the mob doesn't need to be asleep long enough for the difference to matter. BLMs should be using Blink, Stoneskin and Drain as well (not to mention the BLMs can also just Stun it).

Sleep II is casted first, so Sleep one has a large chance of being resisted. Sometimes the BLMs go bugger up my system when they cast Sleep multiple times after the Freeze casting (So it's like sleep > bam > sleep > bam) and then it's fully resisted to sleep. Gravity lands more reliably at this point and allows time for those lil' taru BLMs to shake their buns while I keep them alive. Although contrary to popular beliefs, even taru BLMs can survive more than a couple of hits from those crabs.

Also no one bothers to buff up. I asked once, I think, but all the BRD said was ... {MP convservation} {Time} or probably meaning that we only had like 80 min to get as much EXP in as possible. (About 11K of exp for those 80 or so minutes btw)

[Icemage]

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In Freeze-parties, maybe. You quickly outgrow those past about level 58 though (the last viable level where you fight Crabs). Freeze is terribly inefficient MP-to-damagewise, but it has the nice effect of delivering a nice knockout blow when you have 4 of them going off at the same time.

I did some manaburn parties while level Bard from 55-58. Never once had issues with Lullaby not sticking reliably. If the Bard wasn't using Enchanting Etude on himself, shame on him.

By compaison, I just did a manabun party last night at level 75 on Bard. BRD/WHM, BLM/RDM x 4 (yes, only 5 of us). Chain 5 consistently in the Aht Urghan area, with a pretty consistent Chain #5 for 305 XP (assisted only by Sanction - no XP rings in effect). Racked up 10400 XP in a shade over 1 hour, and probably could have gotten 11K or even 12K had I not been rusty at pulling.


Icemage

[Aeni]

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In Freeze-parties, maybe. You quickly outgrow those past about level 58 though (the last viable level where you fight Crabs). Freeze is terribly inefficient MP-to-damagewise, but it has the nice effect of delivering a nice knockout blow when you have 4 of them going off at the same time.

Icemage, do you know what they manaburn on after crabs? Like in the late 50s~60s? I can't think of anything and processionaires are too spell resistant at 58 if I remember correctly.

And yes, I agree with the cost of Freeze in mp and ratio damage-wise. It's so expensive that a Tarutaru BLM could have 100% mp and noticeably down to only 1/3 left after a round. If the mob was still standing with over 50% of HP, then I shudder to think what would happen next >_<

I did some manaburn parties while level Bard from 55-58. Never once had issues with Lullaby not sticking reliably. If the Bard wasn't using Enchanting Etude on himself, shame on him.

Oh, is that what he should've done? He didn't do it ... not even once >_< He was quite cocky too, saying how he was an {Incredibly Tough}{Fisherman}

By compaison, I just did a manabun party last night at level 75 on Bard. BRD/WHM, BLM/RDM x 4 (yes, only 5 of us). Chain 5 consistently in the Aht Urghan area, with a pretty consistent Chain #5 for 305 XP (assisted only by Sanction - no XP rings in effect). Racked up 10400 XP in a shade over 1 hour, and probably could have gotten 11K or even 12K had I not been rusty at pulling.


Icemage

Wow, that's really nice! Especially at those levels. I am not adverse to mana-burn PTs, especially if there's no tank seeking and all you have left is either a choice of having the DRG/WAR tank on Ts and trying to make a living doing that >_> or you gather together the 100 mages that is seeking and throw something together. But, it's not my cup of tea. I'd rather see a balance party and something else to cast other than refresh ... sleep II ... aspir ... refresh ... sleep II ... aspir ... refresh ...