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  • #31
    Re: Elemental staves, NQ vs. HQ

    Deja vu: http://www.ffxionline.com/forums/red...s.debuffs.html

    Can anyone recommend a good parser to me? I'd like to test it when I get Patch back.
    There will be cake.

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    • #32
      Re: Elemental staves, NQ vs. HQ

      ffxi.somepage.com has some parsers if you go to the bottom of the left bar and click FFXI Links.
      I RNG 75 I WAR 37 I NIN 38 I SAM 50 I Woodworking 92+2

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      • #33
        Re: Elemental staves, NQ vs. HQ

        I think where there's a problem is that people tend to overlap results from different sets of testing and then come to some conclusion that supposedly benefits everyone around.

        This thread was about NQ versus HQ. Of course, the testimonies given seem to indicate that the HQ staves are worth paying the money for -- for the most part.

        What I need to know is just how effective an NQ stave is compared to the HQ counterpart. If the HQ is every bit superior (we're talking miles apart) and the NQ does NOTHING for the average player, then isn't it a waste of time for a RDM to get a stave at all if it's not HQ (Again, outside of the Dark Staff for MP healing and possibly Light Staff for that boost in curing) Where I'm concentrating this discussion now is towards RDM enfeebling.

        The key here is to not have any other pieces of m.acc+ and m.atk+ equipment on. Higher levels who do the testing will skew the results because they have access to all this, plus they've merited AND probably have many skills capped all around, which may or may not matter.

        What I want is the test from an average Joe. These seem to mirror my own results better than some level 75 RDM who got 75s in other mage jobs and got tons of *pimp* gear that would make Bill Gates jealous ....

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        • #34
          Re: Elemental staves, NQ vs. HQ

          Given that you seem unwilling to trust the data and experience of others for possible faults in their methodology, why don't you pick up a parser and collect some data for yourself? ffxi.somepage.com has a link to a commonly used one.
          lagolakshmi on Guildwork :: Lago Aletheia on Lodestone

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          • #35
            Re: Elemental staves, NQ vs. HQ

            Originally posted by Taskmage
            Given that you seem unwilling to trust the data and experience of others for possible faults in their methodology, why don't you pick up a parser and collect some data for yourself? ffxi.somepage.com has a link to a commonly used one.
            Because it will only confirm what I've said here ... ? Seriously Taskmage, even parsers have been known to spew errors (Reason why I stopped using them when I once added all the damage from my chat log and compared it to the parser and the parser exaggerated my output by about ~20% ... among other things)

            And I do run my own tests. My tests are coming off of IT-IT++ Robber Crabs (To a level 53 RDM) while I duel box my 2nd account to tank the Robber Crabs. This way, not only can I filter out everything on one box and leave it unfiltered on another (To check to see if FFXI's own filtering system can sometimes output inconsistencies) but also I'm able to make checks with one account and not have to worry about dying so much (What was some other people's methodology of using BST to charm? That also introduces unknown in the data)

            My second set of test will be more fun. Abs-spells ftw. -MND and see what happens. -INT and see what happens. Etc.

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