Advice from rdms who beat maat

[WishMaster3K]

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I paniced the first time I fought him, he essentially resisted my game plan and I didn't have a backup. But he fight's like a retarded MNK is using RDM at lvl 70 =[

I'm gonna try fighting him at 75 and Thunder 3ing his ass too see how gratifying that is -.-;

[Kafeen]

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The time I won my strategy was:

Eat food (Crimson Jelly + Yag Drink) then enter BC
Run straight up and cast Sleep II

When I tried it that way I got.
Valega casts Sleep II.
Maat Resists the spell.

I died about a second later.

I suggest buffs first, just incase.

[blazeofglory]

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wow thanks everyone for all the advice. I'm 0/2 so far on maat (between when i started this post and now I took a small break for finals and all that stuff) now that im @ 70 and capped my skills for this level I'm planning on giving him another shot and fairly soon.

[arkaine23]

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If you buff first, you are safer, but there are drawbacks to it as well. My sleep macro had both a sleep 1 and sleep II, seperated by a one second wait, so if the first failed I could mash the same macro for the second sleep. And Sleep 1 is faster to get off than sleep II, so set sleep II first, wait 1, then sleep as a precaution in your sleep macro.

Note: all offensive macros for this fight can be <bt> or <maat> for quicker execution than say <stnpc>.

And bind is a nice backup. He'll still nuke you and buff himself when bound, but at least you keep his fists away and prevent him from getting TP.

2 of my 3 failed attempts were running out of mp. Because I played it more cautiously and buffed first, then ran in and debuffed and slept, and debuffed some more. Then began nuke/sleep cycle.

You can survive a resisted sleep if you don't panic. You've got to fire your second sleep spell right away if its up. Failing that, bind and run away until your sleep recasts are up and try again. Maat resisted a sleep during my winning battle, but I maintained control with a follow-up sleep I and bind.

There are basically two ways to do this fight without a lot of uber melee gear.
1) Sleep/Nuke (buff, sleep, dispell, nuke, sleep, nuke, sleep, buff, convert, heal, chainspell, nuke nuke nuke, nuke, sleep, nuke- with maybe some resting and rebuffing as needed)
2) Blitzkreig Nuking (Buff, Diaga [to remove shadows], Chainspell nuke till outta mp, vile elixirs + nuke til he's dead with maybe an occaisional blink while chainspelled to keep you a bit safer)

What I chose was a blend of these strategies. For me, sleep/nuke was too risky because maat is pretty fair at resisting sleep. And all out attack is all or nothing, cuz you won't be able to sleep him at all having DOT'd him to take down his shadows if he had any up.

I highly advocate running up right away and praying he has no shadows and sleeping him. If he has shadows you could be screwed, but he only had blink up 1 of the 4 times I battled him. And for all I know he cast it while I was buffing prior to running up to him. I think it's better to take control right away and not give him the chance to buff a lot. Unless you're a taru and MP is not so much of a problem for this fight.

I had less than 700 mp for the fight including the crimson jelly I downed. Extra debuffs eat mp and converting or sleep resist when I needed to convert almost always was what killed me the times I failed. The only tricky thing about my strategy was making sure I did not chainspell nuke so much that I had ran out of mp to sleep him so I could convert.


Don't underestimate Blink, and Bind does stick pretty well for an emergency (it does wear as soon as you cast offensively on him though). Especially while chainspelled, recast your buffs if you need to and sleep him just before you run low on mp. If you have gotten off 4 aero III's and then can get him asleep and convert/heal/rebuff yourself, you shouldn't have any trouble getting the win.

[Weeeekujata]

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Lady Luck must be on your side.

No matter, how good, how well equipped, you are. Luck is a *huge* factor for red mage.

Getting a sleep 2 resisted in the best conditions, or your aero 3 resisted do to mathimatics equations going against you, is just what will stop you from winning.
You are playing versus dices, the equipment is giving you bonus for your dices, thats all.

Hence, thats why Red mage is considered the hardest to beat.

I've personalyl used the go in, sleep->nuke->sleep->nuke->sleep-> enfeeble if you want earlier btw)->nuke->sleep->cs -> nuke something like that, i used 1 vile which was useless, I still did not convert when i won.
for me it took 4 tries, first one @ 68 leaving him 10% hp.
2nd time lvl 70 with whatever gear you can think of, sleep got horribly resisted
3rd same as before
4th I killed him without a sweat didnt lose a single hp, he never got a nuke or enfeeble off me. Sleep never missed its cue either.

All wind days. other than the 68. which was on a earth I think.

Its kinda dumb but sleep factors the easy win for us.

[Cyborg]

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that is a very very very nice movie ^^ i really like the music you put to it also, you think you can repost the name of the song, i wanna see if i can find it.
this will help me alot in 10 lvls' but man he almost got you a couple times lol <down to 120 or so at one point and he does one inch punch <no ausran fist lol>

[Alucath]

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I just beat him.. I'm 1/4 on him which was kind of hard to come to grips with. I really thought I was prepared and could beat him 1/1 but.. Y'know what. It's pretty much luck of the draw. I could've beaten him the first try and I made a stupid mistake, woke him up during chainspell. Pretty idiotic eh?

Anyway, This last time I went in on darksday and luckily he didn't resist a single one of my spells. There was a close call in which I was lucky to have bought a Vile Elixer (NQ) which totally saved me right there. I'm so glad to have beaten him now.. He made me sick just dreading another loss.

[WishMaster3K]

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HURRAH!!!!!!! GJ CORWYNN

How'd you feel after you won??? ^^

I felt great, but it was an easy fight, cause as I said, it was like fighting a retarded monkey =[

Ah well, Maat is the hardest thing you'll come across, everything else is a cakewalk. I'm gonna fight him after I merit, just for the sake of doing it. Gonna put him to bed with some CS- Thunder3s >.<

[Alucath]

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Haha, Pretty awesome just because it was finally over. Losing three times in a row was doing nothing for my morale. It didn't seem like skill anymore like I was really hoping it would be. Like that retarded chocobo mini game in FFX >.>. But alas Caldabolg and G5 are mine!

That CS, Thunder 3 sounds fun I think I'll farm another testimony for when I start meriting xD.

[BurningPanther]

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I'm curious, does Maat get Asuran Fists if you face him at 70, or does he have it at any level?
What other WS does he have?

[WishMaster3K]

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I think he gets it at 70, but i'm sure i've seen ppl eat that move at lower levels. I'm not 100% sure on that, I kept his ass slept XD

Remember that Nukes give him TP, like any other mobs. I only got off 8 Aeros b4 he died, but it's possible that other RDMs who nukes more cause they didnt hit as hard ate that move.

[BurningPanther]

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I'm just trying to figure if I have a better survival rate facing him at 69 than 70.

[Gwynn]

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I'm just trying to figure if I have a better survival rate facing him at 69 than 70.

I'm about 95% sure he'll have Asuran Fists anyway. I haven't fought him yet personally, but I was watching one of my friends fight him as Paladin... he fought Maat at multiple levels and the old fick used it every time.

[WishMaster3K]

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Asuran Fist pales in comparison to having your enfeebles stick. I wanted to fight him at 69 as well because I figured that avoiding Asuran was worth the risk. However, it is imperitive that you'll die, regardless, and you'll learn from your mistakes

If you die, don't worry, it' happens. At 70, you have a BETTER chance, because the luck side of the equation is a little less steep since you have a higher skill cap.

I have the Joyeuse now, as soon as I get Savage blade, I'm meleeing gramps >.<

[tdh]

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At Lv.70 a MNKs H2H skill will be Lv.251. Asuran Fists is the Lv.250 Weapon Skill. Only thing is, you need to be Lv.71 to do any of those WS Quests.

However, I was under the impression that Maat was Lv.70+ ALWAYS. So if you'd already done G1-4, and had your test, then decided to try Maat at Lv.50, that he'd be Lv.50 as well. I could, however, be wrong.