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  • #16
    Re: Guivre Soloing

    lol u know ... i had never seen guivre untill i started posting on this thread .... then like yesterday i go to level in kuftal and i was like no shit ! as i went to pull a crab and saw guivre running towards me >.> well lol i thought i might have possibly avoided his aggro so i decided to run back well i got back to party was like danger danger !! and i'm surprised he only hit me for 450 lol xD i survived but 2 of my party members died i tried to luer it away from them but they healed me >.< ........ so now in my bazzar messege i have "the one who got attacked by guivre and lived to talk about it xD "



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    • #17
      Re: Guivre Soloing

      Originally posted by Weeeekujata
      Icemage:
      2nd you must pull it with a bind, stick a silent oil on yourself asap. than run to the zone line, that is your battle zone, although i feel bad for passerby, but that is the safest place. at this point if you notice your bind are succesfull than you win half the fight.

      Crimson legs would defintly be a big plus.

      /nin is mostly to have 3+3(+3 more if you manage your ichi->ichi->ni well)+1.
      during this time you would want a bind in there.
      I am currently working on the new COP cape & legs, which will give +10 more enfeebling.
      You'd get someone calling MPK on you before you could even finish casting Bind. The zonelines for Kuftal are extremely high traffic, as people are constantly drifting through to get to Cape Teriggan and Valley of Sorrows, not to mention the Teriggan zoneline as well as the tunnel near the crabs on the Altepa side are both popular XP camps.

      This is neither a viable nor realistic tactic.


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      • #18
        Re: Guivre Soloing

        You might want to have a friend at zone warning people you are doing guivre.

        I clearly stated that.
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        • #19
          Re: Guivre Soloing

          Yeah, because your friend is going to be able to keep the entire Kujata server from entering Kuftal. Binding at zone it will be constituted as MPK, regardless if you have someone there "warning" passerbys or not.

          Also, didn't understand this at all.

          2nd, way is RDM/NIN. poison 2+bio2. bind, your disadvantage is no gravity.
          Gravity is a RDM specific spell, why would you not have gravity?


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          • #20
            Re: Guivre Soloing

            ever try gravity on guivre? without elemental seal
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            • #21
              Re: Guivre Soloing

              That's not the point. The point was directed at your poorly worded sentence.


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              • #22
                Re: Guivre Soloing

                The main problem with the Agro Area could be setteled by bringing a skill up party to help take care of the mobs in the origonal area. However you would have to do your best to stear clear of them, and the puller would be at a risk.

                Honestly this is in the near impossible range. I would highly recomend just subbing ninja fore the extra defence power, and dual weild wonds for whatever debuff potancy you might loose in the process. Swords wont do you any good against a mob that can out melee you tenfold.

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                • #23
                  Re: Guivre Soloing

                  DakkoN: That's not the point. The point was directed at your poorly worded sentence.

                  I dont recall poor sentencing, grammer something that must be 100% respected here.
                  Also the main topic is how to solo guivre, and how it can and will eventually be done by someone if not done already.

                  2nd, way is RDM/NIN. poison 2+bio2. bind, your disadvantage is no gravity.
                  Gravity is a RDM specific spell, why would you not have gravity?

                  Ok how's this:

                  The 2nd way is with RDM/NIN, your main debuff on him will be poison 2 & Bio 2. As well as you will be using bind, to keep him at bay from hitting you. If bind does wear off early than thats where your /nin comes in handy.
                  Now one would say Why not use gravity! The answer is simple dear readers, guivre is a wind based mob, now yes we can stick gravity on many different kind of wind based mobs, but guivre is very resistance to this spell. In case some of you dont know, there are some mobs in this game that have high resistance to X spell.

                  For any additional input in this thread, lets stick to these key points :

                  1# How to make it succesful
                  2# Bring up the problems that can happen (by the way Hyrist bringing a skill up pt is a great idea, never occured to me ^^)
                  3# Dont direct insults to people please.
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                  • #24
                    Re: Guivre Soloing

                    Well, the DoT, zone out, zone back in, repeat strategy (like the solo strategy for Murphy) could work if you were the only person on the server. Otherwise it's MPK, or you will get your claim stolen, or both.

                    DoT+great circle kiting (like the solo strategy for Guardian Statue) seems more theoretically feasible, but only if you can get to high enough level that everything else on the first floor is non-aggro. I'm not sure if that is actually possible or not (assuming you don't run past the Ovinniks, which you can avoid).

                    /THF for flee and crimson cuisses seem like the best idea to me too. If he gets into melee range more often than you can cast Stoneskin and Blink, you're going to lose regardless of Utsusemi, I think.

                    Also, even if it does work, it will probably take hours, because instead of having 10+ full strength DDs, you have one person of a job that's not that great at damage in the first place, using a lot of your MP on kiting/defensive spells and not meleeing (normally the most MP-efficient way to do damage while soloing). I doubt you will be able to afford (or hit with) many nukes, which means you have to keep this up until he keels over from just Poison and Bio... even assuming he doesn't have auto-regen, that's a LONG time.

                    If you're the last survivor of your party/alliance wiping at 1%, go for it, but otherwise, don't expect this to work.
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                    • #25
                      Re: Guivre Soloing

                      Originally posted by Weeeekujata
                      3# Dont direct insults to people please.
                      lol, It wasn't a direct insult. It was a perfectly reasonable question to your poorly worded statement, which was this:

                      Originally posted by Weeeekujata
                      2nd, way is RDM/NIN. poison 2+bio2. bind, your disadvantage is no gravity.
                      Your words in this statement insinuate that you don't get Gravity by subbing Ninja.

                      And to the matter at hand, you're most likely not going to be able to solo Guivre, regardless of what equipment you have, what sub you use, or what strategy you use, unless it's by continually zoning it with DoTs on it while you proceed to MPK any person who wants to enter Kuftal.

                      Originally posted by Karinya
                      DoT+great circle kiting (like the solo strategy for Guardian Statue) seems more theoretically feasible, but only if you can get to high enough level that everything else on the first floor is non-aggro. I'm not sure if that is actually possible or not (assuming you don't run past the Ovinniks, which you can avoid).
                      All things that agro in Kuftal will continue to agro level 75s. ;x


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                      • #26
                        Re: Guivre Soloing

                        Is Guivre stronger than Ungar?
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                        • #27
                          Re: Guivre Soloing

                          I've heard of Rdm/Bst soloing Guirve a very long time ago. I think it was on this forum actually... Just continually throw pets at it with Bio and Poison on him. It's no different then a Bst soloing him, except you have more survivability.

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                          • #28
                            Re: Guivre Soloing

                            I saw a RDM solo Ungar, and they did this as a RDM/NIN, and they basically Kited,Nuked and DoTed his ass. So that's why I want to know who is stronger. Let's ask Avesta, lol. Oh, Grendal still plays, I'll ask him.
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                            • #29
                              Re: Guivre Soloing

                              In Avesta's recent video update, he melee Ungar as Rdm/nin. The fight is exceedingly long and the video file is mega heavy, lol.

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                              • #30
                                Re: Guivre Soloing

                                Welll. . . . keep in mind that Avesta is God. And a Taru. Just like Grendal. Just like me (*_*)
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