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  • #16
    Re: What if RDMs were different?

    Refreshga is already done by BRDs in the form of a song. Not in the form of a MP-Regen buff. (I.e. MP-Up Symbol?). Like how we have AoE HP Regen, yet there's Curaga? Shouldn't that stay as a BRD thing? If anything, give RDMs a AoE +MP spell. Like, "Mana-ga." And don't start imagining the use of such nonexistant spell with Chainspell. It won't work as well as you'd think unless you're feeding other RDMs MP, whom are also using chainspell. Tis all in the imagination, though, nothing can stop us from dreaming^^

    But a Refresh 2 is definately in order. We need!
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    • #17
      Re: What if RDMs were different?

      Funny how a topic concerning RDM alternate realities focused on the only thing that really matters: Refresh. It's our sole playing card in the EXP party game. I like to think that if SE had never given us Refresh, and boosted Enfeebling, we'd be complex with a better better melee stats and the retention of our Marksmaship capabilities. I mean, after all, if we didn't have Refresh, we'd have to have something, right? As it is, I already believe us to be the manaburning version of a Ninja(calling into question the relevance of either job upclose), Refresh is what sets us apart, from everyone.

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      • #18
        Re: What if RDMs were different?

        Refresh should not be a cast only spell. Period.
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        • #19
          Originally posted by DrivenTooFar
          Refresh should not be a cast only spell. Period.
          So what're you saying? Ninjas should get something similar, without spending MP?

          Hellz no! Refresh should stay cast only, and stay SOLELY WITH RED MAGES! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

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          • #20
            Re: What if RDMs were different?

            Originally posted by BurningPanther
            I mean, after all, if we didn't have Refresh, we'd have to have something, right?
            yea... we have to have patience... an extreme patience i must say.

            xD referring to my days without refresh of course.
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            • #21
              Re: What if RDMs were different?

              Hehe, we'd have to have alot of luck, or some soloing trump card.

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              • #22
                Re: What if RDMs were different?

                Originally posted by DrivenTooFar
                Refresh should not be a cast only spell. Period.
                You mean should not be a spell you can only cast on yourself right?
                ^^

                RDM without Refresh, I can't really imagine it. It would probably drive me to level another job. :<

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                • #23
                  Re: What if RDMs were different?

                  I'm not really at the level to cast Refresh, so I can't really talk about that. I do have the scroll for the day I eventually reach that lvl and plan on putting it to use when the time comes. But the one thing I would like to see S-E change about the RDM job is increasing the sword skill from a B rating to A (preferrably +) rating.

                  I mean, yes its a mage job; BUT come on...everything about it makes you think the job should have a better sword skill than just B. The job's artifact sword is called "Fencing" degen. Fencing requires a little skill...right? The AF2 gear is called "Duelist"...again, to me symbolizing that the class should have a little skill with the sword.

                  B rating isn't that big a deal, but people seem to have this mentality that a RDM shouldn't have anything to do with melee fighting at all. That's not my personal play style, I don't wear the sword just to look cool...I plan on using it. And I think a lot of people think that RDM can't do any melee because its skills aren't the best and I would like to see a change in that particular aspect of the job.

                  The reason I chose the RDM job my first day on (I was initially a monk) I saw a RDM in full AF gear run by me in Windurst and was impressed. He reminded me of a musketeer with his armor on, and I thought the job was like an elegant swordfighter capable of using magic. But on numerous site I read about how RDM's are encouraged to just cast magic, and to me that is just boring. If I wanted to do that, I would have leveled WHM.

                  Okay, enough ranting. Just thought I would throw that out there, just a little something I personally would like to see from S-E.
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                  • #24
                    Re: What if RDMs were different?

                    If RDM gets A Sword i think BLM and WHM should get A in Staff and Club respectively @_@

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                    • #25
                      Re: What if RDMs were different?

                      If we get A+, even A in sword I would be ecstatic.
                      But it won't happen as we would be way overpowered. o_O

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                      • #26
                        Re: What if RDMs were different?

                        You can be focused on your sword with the ability to cast magic secondary. It doesn't have to be in an exp party. There are plenty of other opportunities to play how you want. Missions, quests, farming, soloing, or just running out and messing around. Why the newer rdms fail to see this is beyond me...
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                        • #27
                          Re: What if RDMs were different?

                          A in sword wouldnt be overpowering. We have no str to compete with war or pld even...

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                          • #28
                            Re: What if RDMs were different?

                            Originally posted by nanatsu
                            You can be focused on your sword with the ability to cast magic secondary. It doesn't have to be in an exp party. There are plenty of other opportunities to play how you want. Missions, quests, farming, soloing, or just running out and messing around. Why the newer rdms fail to see this is beyond me...
                            That is true. I take every opportunity I can to use my sword when I am not in exp parties. I would just like to see RDM with a higher sword skill when it seems like SE designed certain aspects of the job around the idea of being a swordfighter.
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                            • #29
                              Re: What if RDMs were different?

                              An alternative to raising rdms sword skill might be to give the class some atk/acc boosts via job traits. This would allow a little more freedom with balancing and depending on the traits lvl might even help with subjob viability.

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                              • #30
                                Re: What if RDMs were different?

                                Sure, and while we're at it, let's give RDM access to Cure V, Tier-IV nukes, and all the -na & -ga spells.

                                Seriously, some of you guys act like RDM is a terrible job that's in dire need of improvements. Open your eyes: RDM kick enough ass as it is. Be content with the awesomeness that is already you.
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