How To Be a Refresh Pimp

[Jei]

Re: How To Be a Refresh Pimp

I rarely nuke in PTs too but bursting is an exception. ^^ I have to say most of my elemental skills came from doing MB so I'm really happy to do it.

Ever since I started levelling in Sky, MB has become much more fun simply because it rarely got resisted at all. Hold a wind staff, MB wind for 450 damage and see the monster's health bar drop... It gives me fun and joy just to look at it. I always use /whm on sky btw.

Before this MB wasn't so fun just because it got resisted a lot and it got annoying.

[TheGrandMom]

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I will only MB usually unless a pt tells me specifically that I'm a pseudo blm. I love to mb but sometimes its not possible. If the mob does a status boost during sc, then I'm dispelling at the time of the mb. Or if its right when I should be refreshing someone, I let it go. But when I can sneak in a mb, I'm all for it! {fun} {excitement}

[Icemage]

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MB puts a lot of extra strain on your MP reserves, but is worthwhile when you can spare the MP. That being said, Dispel always takes precedence over MB, as does curing someone who's getting smacked around, so I don't know that I hit more than about 75% of my potential MBs.

Ordinary nuking I rarely do, though I DO pull out some nukes if my convert timer is about due and I have spare MP that would otherwise go to waste. This is always a conditional decision, since I have to be sure that the monster will die before I attempt to convert, or the nukes + curing myself after converting can cause lots of trouble.


Icemage

[Mila]

Re: How To Be a Refresh Pimp

lol... leave it to the galka to be the only nukehappy rdm on the boards.

[Icemage]

Re: How To Be a Refresh Pimp

lol... leave it to the galka to be the only nukehappy rdm on the boards.

Not sure what level range you're at, but at level 55, my MP supply is often stretched to the absolute limit in parties with 3 or more casters to the point where I can't nuke outside of magic bursts even if I want to, despite having 650-730MP (depending on subjob) per convert cycle to play with. I can't imagine what it'd be like as a Galka with significantly less base MP to work with.

Where do you find the extra MP to toss around and be nuke-happy?


Icemage

[Jei]

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It's not too bad with just 2 other mages I think. With PLD we got pushed a bit more, and with DRK we really are at the limit.

On an opposite note, with just 1 other mage and a nin tank. This is not often the case but once in a while I will have this kinda PT and I rarely have to use MP at all ^^ I prefer to just stay back and relax mostly (seeing I PT over 4-5 hours a day) but if any RDM wants to melee/nuke more, these set up will actually be ideal to do so.

[WishMaster3K]

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Yeah, I had to explain to a NIN who told me to hit the backlines that I was only Refreshing myself, the WHM, MBing, and casting Silence/Gravity (WHM wanted DiaII for her own skill). He was doing all the enfeebles, so in turn with a BRD in the back with us, I didnt have to convert, nor /heal =/

On the other hand, I had a bone pt today MNK MNK MNK BRD RDM WHM. Often I had to notify the WHM i'd take over healing cause shed be low on MP and i had a high reserve. Even with two Refreshes, I had two Haste, all debuffing (blinda since WHM was 100% concentrated on healing) and threw out Dia2 and Silence on the mage mobs. I then realized that also hitting the mob off with Slow/Blind/Paralyze cost MP initially, but saved it in the long run on healing melee.

In this setup, it was hardly what I would call relaxed, especially when those BLM Skeletons got gay and lost Silence in the middle ofa Refresh cast, not giving me enough time to Silence their ThundagaIIIs. . . .

Ah well, I got to 66 today, and I am halfway into it, as opposed to being halfway into 65 when I woke yest morn. If my date gets called off, I'm gonna raise RDM to 67, then be forced into jungle for required exp on subs ;.;

[tdh]

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I play a whm and a rdm. When I'm on whm, I find that at times the rdm and I overlap on curing. This is slightly annoying since its my job to main heal, especially seeing my cures land for a lot less than they can or even 0. If the rdm communicates to me first that he/she is going to take over, then thats fine. But wasting mp because the rdm decides to change tactics is bad for the pt. I've run into this quite a bit. I'm not saying that you do this, but I do want to bring it to rdms reading this so they are aware this can happen.

This is something I try and pay attention to as well. I know I've made a number of WHMs /cry due my decently high Healing Magic skill level, and my high Elvaan MND and another MND+21 on top of that. What I usually do is when they use a Cure II, I drop a Cure on the same person. If they toss out a Cure III, I will add a Cure II if it's actually needed. No sense in me spending more MP than is needed, but it does help the WHM save some MP as well. In the past I've found WHMs that have really liked this system, and we've worked in tandem. They always expected me to drop a smaller Cure when they casted Cure. They've also liked me taking of full Cure Monkey duties so they can /heal, all while keeping the chain going.