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  • Joyeuse obtained

    Camped Charybdis for literally two weeks or so >_< Finally popped at the right time, with the right people on. Charged down there with the LS, nobody else in SSG except the entire LS raiding alliance swarming past bewildered newbies, and high levels who turn and stare after us. They knew something was up, and so did Charybdis.

    Got in there, checked to make sure no competition was around to steal him, and buffed up. We had a PLD tank, but a bunch of healers, and some rangers, plus a few stunners. Fight went rather well, with 12 people. Mages stayed on shore with BRD singing dual ballads, RNGs pinging away at Chary with preludes, PLD + other melee keeping him busy in the water area. The other devil manta aggroed, but got knocked out with Sleep II. Dropped my Joyeuse, and a shall shell. It was mine, so I didn't have to compete with anybody else on lots.

    After the initial rush, I went to try it out, with Haste of course.

    For starters, this thing is fast at 226 delay, and has a decent damage for a RDM sword (35 DMG).

    The best part is that it double attacks about 80% of the time. Once, I got 4 double attacks in a row, filled my chat log with spam, and gave me something like 48tp in a very short period of time. Looking at the stats on Enhancing Sword, and considering the double-attack trait & rate at which I can pump out weaponskills, I think that Joyeuse is only second to Excalibur as far as RDM swords go.

    Plus, it looks amazingly cool with that adaman blade, and gold guard, knucklebow, and pommel. You can even see engraving detail on the pommel...which adds a touch of class. This is literally the epitome of rapier-style weapons, and fits very well with my Darksteel Buckler.

    Of course, you may wonder, did I sell away my other swords upon getting the Joyeuse? The answer is no - I'm keeping the Fleuret for dual wield when I level NIN, and a WW Anelace for beating on bone-type mobs (rapier style weapons SUCK against bone mobs).

    Tips on camping Charybdis:

    - 2 mantas mean the spawn window is open (9 - 12hrs, not 21 - 24hrs...it has changed since a patch)

    - kill the manta just outside the door, for best results

    - be patient. I camped him for 2 weeks, seeing him pop and taken down by other LSs because mine was not ready at the moment. Very frustrating too. It is a good idea to get commitments from LS members prior to going on a placeholder killing spree (level 70+ RDM can solo devil manta easily, using Sleep to gain time to recast buffs)

    - to get to Chary's room, hug left wall as you enter SSG, go to the fishing pond with the bridge running over head. Find the gold beastcoin door, trade gold beastcoin to it (you don't lose the coin when you trade). Head SW, ignoring the first tunnel to your right. You will see a drop to your right...ignore it, head to your left, use the drop you see, then turn left. You will come to another drop to your left. Go down, turn left again, hug left wall, and an unmarked door will come into view. Inside, are treasure chests and an NPC named Bou the Righteous. This is where Charybdis pops.


    Tips on fighting Charybdis:

    - try not to draw hate. Whatever he does to the tank, he will do double to you.

    - definitely keep mages + rngs out of AOE range

    - never, ever let tank get too low hp. Charybdis does multi-hit attacks, and can kill your tank before you realize it.

    - blink tank is best, with bard to sing mambo.

    - definitely keep paralyze, slow, blind and gravity up on him. paralyze is extremely important, 6mp can prevent a handful of 4-hit multi death attacksâ„¢. Slow gives you time to keep tank alive and kicking. Blind reduces acc of his multi hits. Gravity is good in case he decides to go after a mage (he actually tried this for my fight, but moved so slow that the PLD was able to voke/flash him back).
    I still do not have Barblind.

  • #2
    Congraturations.

    It's nice to know a good PLD can tank Charybdis. Have fun with it but I hope you won't lose your motivation towards the end-game because some red mages seem to feel they're done once they obtain Joyeuse.

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    • #3
      Congraturations.

      It's nice to know a good PLD can tank Charybdis. Have fun with it but I hope you won't lose your motivation towards the end-game because some red mages seem to feel they're done once they obtain Joyeuse.
      Not a chance. Joyeuse is only one part of a RDM's complete breakfast - I still have DRK sub, NIN sub, level 75, merit points, Evisceration to obtain (got savage blade), AF2 pieces, cursed equipments, god armor... etc.

      RDM will never be done, and that's how I like it.
      I still do not have Barblind.

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      • #4
        Congratulations!

        I love the "4-hit multi death attacksâ„¢."

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        • #5
          I will kill for joyeuse, I offered a friend of mine who's a part of a largers ls that has killed it many time 1 million gil to get it for me. no I'm not a part of that ls, maybe I should be, I dunno.

          Anyway, he said he was fine with the 1 million gil.

          Wish I had 1 million gil. Actually I do, but that's about all I have really. Honestly though, I wouldn't actually pay for it. though it's a great sword, I would rather earn it, and try to find enough friends, (mainly ninja's) that would help me with it. Maybe someday, maybe not.

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          • #6
            /points at sig
            RDM75| DRG75

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            • #7
              Of course a pld can hold Charbydis infact I think a Paladin can do a better job on this thing since it attacks like a monk. This isn't a hard fight if you have a half decent hnm ls or a good friendslist.
              Relic Stage 5: Excalibur Completed.
              RDM75 / PLD73

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              • #8
                Yes PLD's can tank this and I've seen PLD's tank this better than NIN's b/c of the multi-hits. I got my joyeuse after killing placeholders for 3 hours. And this was after waiting about 3 hours for the placeholder to pop.

                It is a 9-12 hour HNM, dont let others tell you otherwise. I've been there at times where I've popped chary, called up my LS and had another HNMLS come in and take all my hard work away. Yes it was sad to see, but they were just lucky and happened to come b/c they wanted to pop him also. Its okay, the next time I got it. It was between me and another RDM in the LS and he lotted 19 and I lotted 800+.

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                • #9
                  Hmmmm

                  It is a 9-12 hour HNM, dont let others tell you otherwise.
                  Well, I'm saying 6 hours, very low % lottery, based on that I've seen him pop 2 times in 7 hours.

                  Also heard him pop, then not reappear for 11 hours. So either very large window (unlikely) or very low% lottery, like sewer syrup.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Hmmmm

                    Originally posted by DrSerpico
                    Well, I'm saying 6 hours, very low % lottery, based on that I've seen him pop 2 times in 7 hours.

                    Also heard him pop, then not reappear for 11 hours. So either very large window (unlikely) or very low% lottery, like sewer syrup.
                    Was this before or after the recent update? I know they changed some spawn times for HNM's in the recent update. I've never had the placeholder pop up before 9 hours and I've camped him from 8+ hours on. Hmm maybe the counter starts at when the placeholder first pops and not when chary is killed?

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                    • #11
                      Re: Re: Hmmmm

                      Originally posted by Akebono
                      Was this before or after the recent update? I know they changed some spawn times for HNM's in the recent update. I've never had the placeholder pop up before 9 hours and I've camped him from 8+ hours on. Hmm maybe the counter starts at when the placeholder first pops and not when chary is killed?
                      Its been like this for at least a couple months.
                      Relic Stage 5: Excalibur Completed.
                      RDM75 / PLD73

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                      • #12
                        I tanked this mob with a bard sinning two march songs, another bard singing two mambo songs, w/ the haste spell, and two bat earrings, and it missed me 90% of the time, so yes a Ninja can tank this better than a Paladin with the right setup.
                        Dtec
                        75Ninja
                        37Warrior

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