Fan farming

[Jinjo]

I tried soloing one of the easier demon NMs at 69, the one that drops Dark Spirit pact. It was eating through stoneskin way too fast, I eventually gave up trying to take it head on, switched to VC and earth staff and kited it in one of the small halls keeping dots on it and drain/aspiring it.
I asked some friends to teleport out and help, although I coulda done it alone with that strategy since i could usually aspir 50-100 MP from it.
Got it down to about 1/4 - 1/2 HP and it astral flowed for 200 Aerial Blast, then I started lagging bad so I couldn't recast stoneskin/blink and bind/gravity... I d/ced and came back to myself dead.
When my friends (BRD and PLD) came, we killed it very easily. But when i was getting hit when Stoneskin fell, I was taking about 60 damage a hit, that's with Phalanx and an Earth Staff.
oh, and it didn't drop ; ;

[Apple Pie]

I know a blm could never do it buy why wouldn't a thf/nin be able to? Also besides losing treasure hunter and the eva bonus wouldn't a 74 rdm/nin with utsu be able to do it too?

This is because they don't have necessary tools like Haste, Shell IV and Stoneskin. Let's take a look at some of special attacks.

Ahriman
- Eyes On Me (It penetrates Utsusemi and does massive damage)
- Level 5 Petrification (This prevents any other LV75 jobs except for RDM and SMN from farming here)

Demon
- Hecatomb Wave (It also penetrates Utsusemi)
- Demonic Howl (AoE Slow. Severely affects recasting time of Utsusemi)

We're are able to protect ourselves by those spells listed but what about others? If Ahriman does Eyes On Me two times in a single battle, THF/NIN will possibly take total 1,000+ damage. Bloody bolt for healing? No, they have strong resist against dark attribute.

In addition, our enfeebling spells, especially Paralyze, greatly help us to fight with them. As Gladesinger stated, Silence hardly landed on Ahrimans and there's no way we can stop their spell-casting without it unless we're lucky enough to inturrupt that.

What is more, the most dangerous combo is Sleepga / Sleepga II (takes all shadows away and makes us sleep) ---> Stonga III / Ancient Magic. Shell IV (22.5%) and our job trait (12%) greatly reduce magical damage but how about them?

By the way, RDM/NIN is, without doubt, the strongest combo here but I think treasure hunter is more important

[Deathguise]

Wow, that looks like an awesome place to farm, I'll let the RDM in my LS know about it because he should be nearing that level soonish.
Really interesting posts. ^_^

At the moment I'm stuck with the Downs for farming tigers and stealing Silver Beastcoins, I'm looking forward to moving to Beaucidine Glacier at around 58 though. :D

[Shiia]

This place has been my farming place for a long time. However I don't solo, I partner with my whm friend and I use mnk as a farming job. I know the fact only rdms are capable to withstand with this farming spot, thus there are alot of Rdms around in the peak times (good thing my peak time they aren't around). The 4 rooms in the middle where apple pie showed you have to be carefull when pulling. Some ahrimans may link from downstairs if you aren't carefull.

And yes basically its around 40~50k per hour depening on the drop rate. The only thing that bothers me alot are arliman and blms using sleep or sleepga at first followed by ancient nuke -_-; Specially sleepga is annoying since it removes my blink (whm friend subs smn).

Take note, the demons in the middle 4 rooms hit HARD. They hit anywhere from 100~150. Specially the drk demon hits anywhere from 180s. The 4 outer rooms their average hit is around 100s. The other demons are usually weaker hit around 60-80s. Just watch for the drk types since they surely is a pain in the arse... specially if they double crits...

Also good thing about these camps is that you can get coffer keys. And you are camping right in the places where the coffer spawns. Got ballad2, phalanx ring myself from those. Of course just make sure there ain't any coffer seekers around. Its a pain for them to find in this place on their own so have some cortesy in that field.

[bonovoxpsu]

Originally posted by Apple Pie
This is because they don't have necessary tools like Haste, Shell IV and Stoneskin. Let's take a look at some of special attacks.

Ahriman
- Eyes On Me (It penetrates Utsusemi and does massive damage)
- Level 5 Petrification (This prevents any other LV75 jobs except for RDM and SMN from farming here)

ugh, that terrifies me right there. i can't tell you how many times i've died via petrification. how are your resist rates?

i've died many times from petrification - lizards, SD. its the worst thing IMHO. even being an rdm with the passive abilities to resist it, i don't.

so what gives apple? am i missing something - how are you avoiding that? is it as bad as SD's? are you just lucky? it sounds like a petrification would pretty much result in death because of the mob's difficulty.

hehe, you all know my fear of petrification i think.

[Apple Pie]

Bono, I'm still LV74, no need to worry about LV5 Petrify for now

I'll report how it's like once I reach LV75 anyway.

[bonovoxpsu]

hmm? not sure what you mean there... :p

you mean that lvl5 petrification doesn't have a chance sticking on you at lvl 74?

[Shiia]

Level 5 petrification only affects you if your level is divisible by 5. Hence 5 10 15 20 25 ... 75. Apple pie is 74 not divisible by 5 so it doesn't take effect. My mnk is also 74 so its unaffected by its abilities. Eyes on me is much like spirits within. It ignores your armor as well as your blinks just goes straight through your defence.

[bonovoxpsu]

wow.

<--- noob

[Apple Pie]

There's no way I can confirm this in game but we seem to have another "Resist Petrify" trait at LV70 according to some websites. That might help LV75 RDMs there to survive.

Then Shiia, we don't get Phalanx Ring from Treasure Coffers there, do we? I guess it's in Treasure Chests of both Castle Zvahl Baileys and Keep. Anyway, Demon's Elemental of Abyssal Demon sometimes drops chest key and we're able to get Phalanx Ring (= 23K - 25K worth on Gilgamesh).

By the way, I created another movie to show how we get started once we arrive in front of the hole. Here it is.
http://www5.sppd.ne.jp/grendal/FF11/farming2.wmv (580kbps, 70+MB, higher resolution than that of the last one)
Note: You may need WMP10 to watch this.

Finally, it's up to the price of Ahriman Wings but there're good places for LV70+ RDMs in both Zvahl Baileys and Keep. If they are more than 15K, you may wanna try that. I'll post it if there's a request for this. Well, don't tell others! Castle Zvahl is our sanctuary

[Gman]

LOL, dont you remember all those LVL "??" Petrify/flare/sleep etc spells from previous FF games? Youre not a noob, you just have a bad memory :p

[ForumWhore]

;3

I did this for about 2 hours (4 mithkabobs). As 75rdm/37thf it's really rather easy to clear ahriman + demons in about 10-12 minutes, and then rest full hp/mp for the next wave.

In the 2 hours, I got:

1 Spear thing (9k)
2 Club thing (8k)
1 Demon horn (13k)
1 Ahriman Tears (1k)

... and nothing else. Might have just been horrible drop luck that particular day, of course.

I didn't resist lvl5 petrification a single time. However the duration of petrification is pretty safe, something like 30seconds (estimate, I didn't use a stopwatch or anything), and ahrimans have weak melee attacks, so no real danger. Also, when/if it casts ancient magic, it's simple to just cast the relative bar-element spell and continue without needing flat blade to stun; most of the time it'll get interrupted just from your normal attacks anyway.

[csBahamut]

Where did you camp to level on the higher lvl deamons in here?

[Apple Pie]

Where did you camp to level on the higher lvl deamons in here?

We used to camp at either corner of 4 areas (circled in red) in the deapest part. To get there, you need to jump into the hole (circled in blue) with Invisible.

It is a little dangerous at the beginning because there are 4 demons and we have to watch for adds until we wipe them out. We can pull them from other areas with ranged weapon.

I did this for about 2 hours (4 mithkabobs). As 75rdm/37thf it's really rather easy to clear ahriman + demons in about 10-12 minutes

Joyeuse rules! ヽ(｀д´)ノ

[Deathguise]

Just out of curiosity (and a need to make money ), where did you farm around my level (55) Apple Pie?