Can Rangers go /war all the way now?

[Caspian]

Re: Can Rangers go /war all the way now?

I've noticed a few of these discussions, but I don't remember anyone bringing up the subject of race. Is it still preferable for Elvaan Rangers to sub NIN for the extra Rng Acc, or could Elvaan land enough shots with /War to stay effective?

The difference in race is so small that it really doesnt matter. Sub whatever you want. You will hit for slightly more as elvaan, and possibly hit maybe a percent or two less. Nothing that will make or break your job. Don't worry about it, just do whichever you want.

[Avoklex]

Re: Can Rangers go /war all the way now?

An Elvaan that has merited Arch/Marks up the wazoo can be very effective with /WAR. I know this cuz my LS leader has done and he hits like a truck when he /WAR. He also used Fire Staff and has STR merited to the max.

[greydaze]

Re: Can Rangers go /war all the way now?

Well, I just got my Sbow, and I thought I could share my experiences:

I use hawker/fransisca, PCC (borrowed from a friend), amemit's mantle, noct gloves +1, RK +1 belt, AF head body legs feet, normal ears/rings. Level 63.

I eat yellow curry unless I'm not hitting, but so far most PTs have been with BRDs and I can step back much further than usual to do added damage. Here's what I've seen:

Demon arrows: 130-180, depending on where I stand, with a 90% hit rate. Barraqe 500-900. SW 800-1500 (1500 very rare, mostly in the 900-1200 range).

Ice arrows: 115-155 with 4-10 added damage depending on where I stand with 85-90% hit rate. Barrage 400-700, SW 800-1500 (I use PPA, so this doesn't change).

This is up about 10-30 points per shot from war bow +1.

[Macht]

Re: Can Rangers go /war all the way now?

I don't know how to read it. could you explain a little bit more what does those "->" mean?

Mentioned those numbers I posted were not accurate, the accurate one is on a different thread here. I just simply didn't want to waste my time finding my work again after I've already presented it here.

The "->" really had no meaning, just simply the bonuses were matched RNG/WAR to RNG/NIN and which surpassed the base stats of RNG/WAR and RNG/NIN when they had the food type in question. Simply what it broke down to stating is:

RNG/WAR + Berserk + rng. att. food = Strongest damage potential, lowest Accuracy
RNG/WAR + Berserk + rng. acc. food = Second Strongest damage potential, Second highest accuracy
RNG/NIN + rng. att. food = Third strongest damage potential, Third highest accuracy
RNG/NIN + rng. acc. food = Lowest damage potential, Highest Accuracy

That is only if you are comparing Damage and Accuracy, as it shows RNG/WAR has possibility for better position in both of those. RNG/WAR lacks the defensive capabilities which are unmatched though against RNG/NIN.

[Fanjul]

Re: Can Rangers go /war all the way now?

Although I can't really comment on how popular one sub is over another, I know that I took /nin up with my static for about 60 levels (I was designated puller so I enjoyed the shadows), and only recently gave /war a try. After a few xp sessions like that the static no longer wants me subbing /nin :-) The difference in damage was extremely noticeable even without Beserk up, I'm assuming from the additional Strength that /war provides me (since Mithra's aren't top notch in Strength to begin with so even a bit of a change seems to make a noticeable difference).

Previously I could spam bolts or arrows, use Sharpshot >> Slug Shot >> Barrage >> Slug Shot and still not pull hate off our PLD tank (granted we start out a mob with a SATA onto him)... but now I've been pulling hate at random times even with just a single WS. It's a nice change to have to manage my hate a bit better and feel like i'm contributing more to the party, and definitely makes the experience a bit more involved and interesting ^.^ yay for /war, it has my vote!