Reverse the Changes to Ranger!

[Intensity]

Re: Reverse the Changes to Ranger!

I'm starting to wonder if most of the people complaining about RNG changes are the ones who bought gil and sped RNG to end game.

Right, just posting findings on Kirin. His Kirin post was exactly what pissed me off. Had nothing to do with the quoted b.s. above...

Impaction, when you have to shove 50-100 gil up your wyverns ass everytime he hits something, maybe then you can say RNG's have been "balanced" with you. When you have to farm for a month, just so you can get 5 lvls or so on your grossly under-powered job, then you can comment on how RNG's are equalized with you. Granted, I can understand where your bitterness stems from. It can't be easy being relegated to the bottom of the (Invite to Join Party) list because you're the red-headed step-child of all the jobs in FFXI. But don't blind yourself to the fact that RNG's have been nerfed to the point of virtual ineffectiveness because you're still sour over being passed up for pt invites 9 times out of 10 for the more effective SAM/DRK/RNG's on your server.

Okay, on that note. I'm sure I've pissed off alot of people in this so this will have to be my last post in this thread. I think I've made my opinion clear anyway.

[peacemaker]

Re: Reverse the Changes to Ranger!

Let's compare,

Think RNG was overpowered? They more than DOUBLED any onther melee's damage output. They allowed HNM LSes to kill Kirin in under 45 mins, when it takes 1-2 hrs using melees. Games are supposed to be a challenge. Where's the challenge in killing Kirin in under 45 mins by spamming arrows and blinking with Utsusemi too?
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Please, Kirin is what people do to relax on weekends, it has never been much of a challenge, even back in the day when there were hardly any high level rangers around. If you want challenge, go kill Dynamis Lord, Tiamat, Vtra, etc. but now, try to do it WITHOUT rangers. From what you have posted, you obviously have no idea what has really happened to the ranger job, I don't blame you because even low level rangers wouldn't notice it because they don't see their TP200 Slugshots and Sidewinders missing the target, even when its shot from the optimal distance. That being said, if you don't know something, then don't post and make a fool of yourself.

As for the petition, it won't change anything. If you guys want something done, go post in the Playonline developers forum, or better yet, send letters to Square-Enix directly. RNG is my 3rd main job, and is next in line for my AF2 collection, I didn't spend all year leveing it to see it go to waste; if Square gets enough complaints, they may just do something about it to at least repair some of the damage, it is very obvious that this nerf has been too extreme.

[kuu]

Re: Reverse the Changes to Ranger!

Please, Kirin is what people do to relax on weekends, it has never been much of a challenge, even back in the day when there were hardly any high level rangers around. If you want challenge, go kill Dynamis Lord, Tiamat, Vtra, etc. but now, try to do it WITHOUT rangers. From what you have posted, you obviously have no idea what has really happened to the ranger job, I don't blame you because even low level rangers wouldn't notice it because they don't see their TP200 Slugshots and Sidewinders missing the target, even when its shot from the optimal distance. That being said, if you don't know something, then don't post and make a fool of yourself.

Where did you get that idea? Kirin used to be the hardest HNM around and only the top LSs can take it.

If someone can pull up old threads, there was a bunch of failed attempts at kirin back then and used to be a 3hr battle.

I wonder if the thread is still around where bascially the old school tactics used to be kite kirin out of mp, before you finally start killing. It was that hard back then, before the rise of 15 rangers, 14 blms, and something to put them in between. = 20 min battle.

edit: All I can find is from 2004 screenie

http://www.ffxionline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=38154

See how much praise they got back then, and did not use the range spam of death answer.

[peacemaker]

Re: Reverse the Changes to Ranger!

Yea, and Shadow Lord was an epic battle once upon a time too. You tried fighting him with a 55 PT with crappy equip before the level 60 cap and AF were even released? That was then, this is now. The difference is, you probably weren't there, I was.

[kuu]

Re: Reverse the Changes to Ranger!

Yea, and Shadow Lord was an epic battle once upon a time too. You tried fighting him with a 55 PT with crappy equip before the level 60 cap and AF were even released? That was then, this is now. The difference is, you probably weren't there, I was.

60 cap huh... or do you mean 70 cap

Hey lookie, screenshots of koieng. And Optical hat, oh errant too, and god equipment.

Bunch of amateurs seems to get around...

must be ashame of themselves taking so long...riiight.

If you were around back then, then you seem to forgot what it was like before every other member of your ls was a ranger.

[Balfree]

Re: Reverse the Changes to Ranger!

i'm sorry, i didn't realize they halved drg, sam, thf, and nin damage 50% while kept their cost constant.

The only nerfs SAM and Drg got were TP nerfs.

Thf made it so that you actually have to be BEHIND the mob to sneak attack.

Nin's enmity nerf is negligible.

and you sir: have no fucking clue what you're talking about. There's NO skill required to find a sweet spot and hitting ctrl-d when the mob dies.

jesus christ, why don't fucking idiots stay off the internet?

Call the whiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiinebulance or go sit in the corner, and i'm not saying you whine because of the update, i'm saying you whine because from your post you sound like a crybaby.

They nerfed sam and drg on their stronger attributes, and thf too, im not saying they nerfed their attack power, im saying they nerfed them.

And there is skill in knowing and antecipating where the enemy is moving, unless you play by randomly bashing the keyboard with your head and praying that you hit the mob, not advised.

I have seen rangers do a great job after the update, sure it's no longer as strong because people still need to adapt, but it's not so bad as to bitching so much.

And do you know who kept the cost constant? the community did, square doesnt put arrows in the Auction house, so who's fault is this?

If you put your 3 brain cells to work, you'll actually figure out who was really nerfed in this update, and you will conclude that SAM got the shaft again, their strongest sub is RNG but they cant be far from mob or they wont be meleeing making them useless, now ranger just needs to adapt but sam has no choice but to sub war or thf now, making them even less needed in battle.

[peacemaker]

Re: Reverse the Changes to Ranger!

60 cap huh... or do you mean 70 cap

Hey lookie, screenshots of koieng. And Optical hat, oh errant too, and god equipment.

Bunch of amateurs seems to get around...

must be ashame of themselves taking so long...riiight.

If you were around back then, then you seem to forgot what it was like before every other member of your ls was a ranger.

I was referring to Shadow Lord as a metaphor, not Kirin. But obviously, that was a concept too difficult for you to grasp. Next time I will be sure to BOLD and avoid using language that requires the slightest interpretation.

Anyway, it's pretty obvious no one has anything else useful to say regarding the petition. Thread closed.