Expunger question

[Tomoh]

I went to BC30 and a bow called Expunger (LV72) dropped. There is latent effect on it. How do I get this to take effect? Can anyone direct me to a Japanese or English site that has info. I can't seem to find any. Thanks.

[nsxtasy]

The 3 theories I have seen on sites:

1). latent is during WS only.

2.) latent is inside of BC only.

3.) kill 300 Easy Prey mobs with it and the latent is active permanently. A person on KI claims to have done this for the Dissector. I've also heard of this theory from some of the JP sites.

I have a Dissector (1h sword) and Coffinmaker (gun). I havn't really messed around w/ em too much yet. Can probably figure out if th e first 2 theories are correct using a weapon of similiar stats to the latent.

I used the coffinmaker during a few kirins one night when I had forgotten the hellfire. It didn't seem to me to be as strong as hellfire during WS (was doin 4-500's slugs, 87-90 reg. shot), but I'd have to use them back to back to be get exact numbers to determine that for sure. It did enough damage to pull aggro I guess. Worked in a pinch.

Some of these weapons seem useful if the latent is reasonable, some not. I'm particularly interested in the Katana for ninja. 38 dmg on latent. 6% crit. very similiar to Fudo's 39 dmg, 3% crit.

[Tomoh]

Someone in the LS said you have to to use the WS 500 times on Easy prey>< He also mentioned that if you use it on anything below easy, it reverts back to its original form. I still cannot find anything on the net in Japanese or English to confirm. As a RDM, this bow would be great to have for the accuracy over the Rapid Bow+1.

I also have the Rune Bow and wonder how the latent works on this as well. I would really like to sell off some of these bow and just keep the best one.

[sekaran]

Mighty Bow is the best RDM bow in my opinion.. 2.5mil on my server though; ;

I've also heard various rumors on how the latent works, all pretty have been said above though.

[Thegod]

I've heard all of those theorys on the latent affect minus the BC one.

I have heard that its only active during WS use more then anything else, but i couldnt say for 100%

[nsxtasy]

I just posted this under a thread about these weapons in main forum.

Definately NOT WS activated.


Ok, some info.

Last night in exp. PT in Shrine of Ru'Avitu (sp?)

Coffinmaker - DMG 27 Latent: DMG 40

Hellfire - DMG 41 rng atk +15 or so

Regular shots went as expected. around 120/shot w/ coffinmaker, 150+ w/ hellfire.

One theory is that upon WS use, latent is activated.

Coffinmaker Slug Shot - 730~

Hellfire Slug Shot - 950+~

Conclusion - The lvl 72 rare/ex bcnm weapons are NOT latent activated by WS.

This was tested on Decorative Weapons. Same Mob, same bullets (silver) same other equipment.

[Thegod]

wow, then how good would this gun really be, even if the laten effect got removed by the 300 kill thing it'd still be weaker then the hellfire,


i gotta check the delay to see if maybe thats a factor.

[nsxtasy]

The key factor to this gun is that its usable by thf and nin. I need to grab some cannon shells and see if they are equipable. A Thf w/ this w/ latent off and Cannon shells would have themselves a nice weapon. Ninja can't use silver bullets, or this would make nin/rng more viable again post 72.

As far as ranger goes, kinda meh. It has less delay than Hellfire which sucks cuz I can't get 100% TP return at level 74. I suppose at 75 you get 100% return again w/ the 6th barrage hit. Then maybe it would be nice to have a gun that shoots as fast as bows and xbows. Coffinmaker was in the 600 delay area, can't remember exact delay. I think hellfire was 720 or something.

[Fire]

Hellfire 660 delay

[sphero]

latent effect

I got the Dissector and use it as my all day main hand weapon. In the beginning it did no good dmg at all and i tryed to figure out how to get the latent effect to work. A lot of people kept saying that i have to get 500 WS points to make it permanent, just like the trial weapons.

Since there is no way to find out how much points you have recived already, you will notice it on the dmg and crit rate you actually do after a while...and it works, i do the same damage with Dissector as if i would use a Katana, just more crits.

So i can confirm that you have to collect WS Points to get the latent effect to work, not sure if 300 or 500, i really didnt count :D My Vorpal Blades do actually same damage as Blade:ku or jin..sometimes a lot more, up to 800 on IT mobs (did 770 on Holy Cow ENM).

I wish the image would change or anything after the latent effect becomes permanent. BTW. idk if all swords do this but when i equip Dissector i loose 50 atk, have to test if there is a hidden effect -50 atk or if it is just the lower sword skill compared to Katana this might be the sign to show that the latent effect is permanent...but i cant test this myself, someone who just got it might try and post the result.