Adding STR?

[Tokitoki]

Do you use that +STR gear while gaining TP or only for WS, also how is your Acc with that for sidewinder Allen?

[Allen]

To get TP/Barrage I use Full R.Acc(Optikaru-Mermans ..) Gear on Kirin/Dynamis-Bcd-Xab. For common mobs i mix like Ruby+Mermaid+WyvernHeml+Ranger Neck.

STR works very well for WS :sweat:

[Stormos]

Well the reason why your sidewinder dmg dipped from 850-1000 to 500-700 is b/c archery ws are mostly based off of STR & AGI. Whereas ws dmg from marksmanship is based solely off of AGI.

If it isnt too much trouble try using hellfire on kirin and try the same experiment and see if the dmg dips as low as it did for archery.

with hellfire+1 & silver bullets I do consistent 755 per slug on kirin. on the slug that i crit, i do around 950-1000 w/o 2x minuets.

I dunno, maybe next kirin i'll just go in there naked with only STR+ equips and see how much dmg it takes off my slug and then go all AGI+ equips to see the difference in dmg.

[Finny]

dmg vs rolanberry bee with +24 str = 551
dmg vs rolanberry bee with +14 str = 551
(slug shot damage on these too inconsistant around 3500-4100)

this number doesnt seem to change at all. in both instances using the same gun. I think dmg is capped depending on the enemy's relative lvl to yours.

[Spider-Dan]

Originally posted by Finny
dmg vs rolanberry bee with +24 str = 551
dmg vs rolanberry bee with +14 str = 551
(slug shot damage on these too inconsistant around 3500-4100)

this number doesnt seem to change at all. in both instances using the same gun. I think dmg is capped depending on the enemy's relative lvl to yours.

As I understand it, the player STR - enemy VIT part of the damage equation is capped based on the D of your main ranged weapon; it does not take into account the D of your ammo. If you use a bow instead of a gun (or try the test against higher level mobs) you should notice a difference when you add more STR.

[Stormos]

i've tried the double minu on kirin today and my max dmg slug was 1229.

my stats were str+19 agi+39 with hellfire+1 and silver bullets.

forgot to go all str gear and agi gear >.>;;

[Thegod]

I dunno, i'm back to rng full bore, so i had a tough decision to make...im currently level 41 rng/nin, and here is my gear set.

hawkers
hawkers
battle bow+1 (serpintine gun)
scorpian arrows (bullets/spartan bullets)
emp. hairpin
ranger's necklace
drone earring
genin earring
nocts+1 tunic
nocts+1 gloves
marksmen ring
horn ring+1
nomad's mantle
merc. capt. belt
nocts+1 pants

WINGED BOOTS/MITHRAN RSE BOOTS <---Now im leaning towards the rse boots full time now, i have switched them out in exp parties, and i noticed the damage big time on barrage, and the +3 str is just enough to push my normal ranged attacks into the 3 digit range.

I was just wondering if anyone would not chose +3 str over +3 agi +3 dex, when your a mithran ranger with as much ranged accuracy as i have.

[Spider-Dan]

I had Leaping Boots and Savage Gaiters at the same level, and I didn't notice any damage difference when I had the RSE on, so I just wore Leaping Boots.

[Thegod]

Originally posted by Spider-Dan
I had Leaping Boots and Savage Gaiters at the same level, and I didn't notice any damage difference when I had the RSE on, so I just wore Leaping Boots.

ill go home and check the numbers tonight, but pre savage gaitors my average ranged attack did 90+ not 100+

im not saying it increases it by 10 points of dmg, but it is a difference that i would prefer over the no difference i see going w/o boots or with the winged boots.

maybe i'll need the winged after i hit 55 and get sidewinder, but im not there yet, so who knows.

[Allen]

I'm stuck at 800-950 (2 minuet) with Sidewinder on Kirin, How are you doing ><

[Stormos]

you should really try hellfire and silver bullets. even though it has a horrid delay, i believe in the end, hellfire does more than bow. After this week's kirin i'll tell you how i did ;p. I didnt really have the luxury of testing dmg on kirin after he wiped 14/18 ppl in the alliance with carby 2hr on lights day >.>;;;

[Thegod]

Originally posted by Finny
dmg vs rolanberry bee with +24 str = 551
dmg vs rolanberry bee with +14 str = 551
(slug shot damage on these too inconsistant around 3500-4100)

this number doesnt seem to change at all. in both instances using the same gun. I think dmg is capped depending on the enemy's relative lvl to yours.

I wanna see this test on an Dc or higher mob, i know that would be hard, you being level 75 and all, but if its possible it might help me decide if setting up a str and agi equip macro would be worth it. <--- i already have two sets of gear for BLM, and im so full on 3 mules and my main character, i am eagerly awaiting this new gobbie bag, i mean 5 slots isnt alot, but it would actually let me hold enough ammo (yeah i have elemental staffs on me while lvling rng because im soo full lately)

[Finny]

as far as I've seen minuet doesnt do anything on for dmg vs kirin. damage per shot with hellfire +1 is always capped at 123 for me with or without it. I forgot ws dmg, but probably not a big improvement either

[Stormos]

hm.. kinda weird, i was hitting 180ish with double minu. reg are 124-127ish. double minu does make a difference.

[Finny]

its possible to have 4 songs on at once?O.o the best I get is double prelude. str doesnt seem to affect regular hits that much, I had 64+24 str today as opposed to +14 and got 126 per hit. 3 extra damage for +10 str go figure.

btw I have to share this,

while kirin STARTS to cast stone V or quake:

sharpshot - barrage - slugshot - equip culverin - icarus wing - slugshot - renkei affect - shoot for barrage tp - eagle eye shot - slugshot - <Run Away!>

I got a full 5 hits 4.X k dmg from this, took like 7% of his life bar out in 10 seconds. got a rapid shot on the barrage =)