Crossbow damage, STR or AGI related ?

[Negorath]

Ok, so I sit in Jeuno and somehow end up arguing with another RNG that Crossbow damage is STR related and not AGI like she was claiming, and Mithra RNG with obow > all and everyone apparently <.<

Anyway, neither of us end up agreeing with eachother so I come here to ask other RNGs about their opinions and/or claims about the following question:

Is Crossbow damage STR or AGI related ?

I know I've read posts with guns being proven STR related and not AGI but since the claim is for Crossbow and we never argued about Guns, I ask for Crossbow specifically.




(sorry for my poor english )

[Timoham]

Crossbow is based off of STR just like every other ranged weapon to my knowledge. Obow is the awesome because of it's base damage and coupled with good bolts it does kick a lot of ass. But just a plain crossbow RNG played well kicks a lot of ass. As far as I know, AGI only affects your accuracy, STR affects damage.

I could be wrong though.

[AkumuX]

Bah, X-bow/Gun damage is STR based. This has been proven, though I forget just where I read it. Sounds like some Mithra was either misinformed, or willing to beleive that because Mithra AGI > all, that some damage is based off AGI. Simply not true, have partied with O-bow using Elvaan if anything at the same lvl with comparable gear they're a point or 2 above me per average hit. Them's the breaks.

(Though they AGI being the basis of damage for them would certainly be more realistic, considering any shlep can pull a gun/x-bow trigger and still blow your head off, just like Hulk can pull the trigger and do the same thing.)

[Rones]

Here is a discussion on calculating ws damage.
I'm not sure about individual attacks, but when it comes to weaponskills str isn't a factor for crossbow/guns. Here is an excerpt from that thread I linked to:

Archery WS 100% 200% 300% #Hits Secondary Attribute TP Adjustment
Flaming Arrow 1.00 1.00 1.00 1x STR_16%, AGI_25%
Piercing Arrow 1.00 1x STR_16%, AGI_25% Def Down
Dulling Arrow 1.00 1x STR_16%, AGI_25% Crit Rate
Sidewinder 5.00 1x STR_16%, AGI_25% Accuracy
Blast Arrow 2.00 1x STR_16%, AGI_25% Accuracy
Arching Arrow 3.50 1x STR_16%, AGI_25% Crit Rate
Empyrial Arrow 2.50 2.75 3.00 1x STR_16%, AGI_25%

Marksmanship WS 100% 200% 300% #Hits Secondary Attribute TP Adjustment
Hot Shot 1.00 1.00 1.00 1x AGI_30%
Split Shot 1.00 1x AGI_30% Def Down
Sniper Shot 1.00 1x AGI_30% Crit Rate
Slug Shot 5.00 1x AGI_30% Accuracy
Blast Shot 2.00 1x AGI_30% Accuracy
Heavy Shot 3.50 1x AGI_30% Crit Rate
Detonator 2.50 2.75 3.00 1x AGI_30%

Only ones where str modifier is applied is for archery.

[Caspian]

I also blv that dmg is based of off STR and acc is AGI, but I got a question.
Why is it that when I shoot an arrow it hits for more than a SAM shooting an arrow? I know RNG is preferred for ranged attacks b/c they are more accurate, but shouldnt the SAM's increased STR mean his shots that landed should hit for more than mine? Just seems odd that I still hit for more dmg than they do when I have less strength.

[kuroitsuru]

rangers are A rank in archery, samurais are C I believe, also samurais don't tend to wear ranged attack + gear.

[Caspian]

duh, I'm retarded, didnt even think about the increase in dmg due to skill...guess that explains it thanks

[imac2much]

Just as clarification Rones, STR is still calculated in EVERY single physical WS in the game, obviously including markmanship WS.

If you read the damage calculation formula, STR and ATK are calculated at various points. The small percentages next to each WS is a 'secondary' stat attribute that is added inaddition to the STR and ATK checks.

So just for clarification, although markmanship doesn't use STR as a secondary attribute, STR still very much affects the WS damage.