"Recycling"?

[Rhayn]

Our set is pld/thf/rng/whm/blm/rdm. We use Shock to lower AGI and Gravity to lower evasion. She's Hume RNG/NIN and renkeis with our THF for Sidewinder > Dancing Edge > Swift Blade (if I have TP). The thief positions behind me, so we rely on Sidewinder to hit and turn the monster for it to work.

Gear is currently like this:

War bow+1 (rgd acc+2, rgd attack+18)
Scorpion/Demon Arrows (rgd acc+5)
Fransisca (rgd attack/acc+7)
Archer's Knife (rgd acc+10)
Full AF (AGI+4, rgd attack+5, rgd acc+10)
Ranger's necklace (rgd attack/acc+5)
2x Drone Earrings (2x AGI+3)
2x Scorpion rings+1 (2x rgd acc+8)
Royal Knight's belt+1 (AGI+2, rgd acc+5 outside nation control)
Amemit mantle (rgd attack+10)

Totals:
Ranged accuracy+60 (+55 if our nation controls zone, and +100 if using Prt.Ptr.Arrow/Unlimited Shot)
Ranged attack+45
AGI+10

I only listed AGI, ranged attack, and ranged accuracy because those are generally considered most important aside from STR. This is without food, which is normally Meat Mithkabobs or Chiefkabobs. She usually throws Sharpshot up for Sidewinder and Barrages. She uses scorpion arrows and switches in a Demon arrow for weaponskills, although she's probably getting a Patriarch Protector's Arrow to switch in and use Unlimited Shot with (DMG:40 Ranged Accuracy+40 Ranged Attack+10 Additional Effect : Paralysis), which means for Sidewinders she'd have Sharpshot in effect and Ranged Accuracy+100 (but only +60 for now) from gear alone.

Take into account the fact that when our thief gets 100% TP, the ranger usually has around 150%+, and you can see why she doesn't miss much and why an additional +10 ranged accuracy probably wouldn't make a huge difference.

In fact, I was probably going to suggest switching out some gear for STR+ or Ranged Attack+ except for when using Sidewinder, especially since our renkei will change to Arching Arrow > Shark Bite at level 66.

[2.0]

Originally posted by Macht
Yes, more to my point we get so much R. Acc that try to horde every scrap we can find in the end just hurts us more then helps. It's far better to give up some +R. Accuracy if it isn't needed to improve damage or something else.

Like I said before. I know that being an accuracy whore can only get you so far. I have no problem with Ranger Necklace over Peacock Charm or Francisca over Hawker Knife. (Still not sure just what Ranged Attack does but that's a topic for another thread) I will not however give up accuracy for negligible magic defense,a useless recycling ability ( to stay on topic) and -enmity that might or might not be useful. Perhaps more of the scout pieces together would make a difference but I doubt it.

[greysenn]

So that you could use it on the off chance that once in a while you might save 3-5 (lmao at actually thinking it's 10-20) arrows/bullets in a stack?

Considering where you have to go to get it, it wouldn't suprise me if it does. If it's only 3-5% like you "think" it might be, then yeah, it's probably a waste of an inventory spot.

I'm not gonna say too much to the rest of the foolishness of your post. I will say this. You can't have too much ranged accuracy. I don't need some coding,or algorithim,or whatever to tell me otherwise.

Yeah, you can. But that gets into a stupid assed /war & /nin debate about how berserk deals more damage than ninja acc adds in situations.
You should, under normal circumstances get as much Racc as possible whatever subjob tho.

(Still not sure just what Ranged Attack does but that's a topic for another thread)

Raises damage curve, average 20-30% increase in hits for berserk. (less on crabs, more on softies, etc)

[poweryoga]

rangers farm every level because they need money to do anything. If something like this beret is up for sale in the AH it would go for millions anyways. Seeing how its not, thats just better.

At lvl 73, you'll be busy trying to save up money for Cursed equipment, bullets, and maybe finally purchasing euryto's bow if you don't already have it. Dusk trousers +1, war beret +1, buying/killing hakutakus for eyes (100k per eye) and paying someone to synth it, relic bow, and always helping other people with stuff. Dynamis doesn't come with free either.

every level uses money, who DOESN'T farm? You still don't seem to get that this piece of armor is NOT for exp parties. There are better things (even hunter beret) for this. However, ability to save arrows in EVERY PLACE outside of exping (fraction of your total time online anyways) is invaluable, and you'd be a fool to not realize that.

Calling recycle a "useless ability" is an ignorant comment no matter how you look at it. Don't like it? Don't use it. Every other ranger wants this hat.

[2.0]

Dream On

If you think that you're gonna get the cash for +1 equipment, cursed armor and an ebow by farming tree cuttings for 20k an hour or whatever that's actually a pretty funny concept. But hey hopefully the scout's beret with the great recycling ability will bring you closer to that goal.

[poweryoga]

I'm not even gonna bother arguing with you anymore, you just can't seem to understand the fact that the cap is useful for situations that you can't seem to grasp.

If you want to misinterpret everything I say to fit whatever you want it to mean in your little head, go ahead.

I keep frogetting arguing with dense people is pointless.

[TaruSGonEWilD]

Honestly 2.0, how can saving arrows be a bad thing? Your still doing dmg with them its just like being give 10-20 arrows extra per stack. Doesn't sound like its a bad thing at all. Poweryoga is right, it doesn't have to be, nor should it be, used for exping. If there are better hats for rng then OFCOURSE YOU ARE GONNA WANT TO USE THOSE IN AN EXP PT!!!!!!!!!!!!! The fact is if its 10-20 arrows saved on a stack that if 1 stack of arrows saved every 5-10 stacks. I don't know about you but using less arrows, thus saving you more money, sounds like a great deal for a rng to me.

[2.0]

It's not 10-20 a stack. It's more like 3. They were talking about it in this topic here and the guy who has it and has used it says that he saves 3-5 bullets/bolts/arrows in a stack. That's why recycling sucks.

[TaruSGonEWilD]

so what your saying is the % is very low so that sucks. ok now that makes a bit more sense. Sure itd be nice to have a higher % but hell saving any arrows at all is still nice. The percentage is what sucks not the actual ability.

[Corrado]

Scorp arrow cost per 99/2000gil.

Arrows saved my Recycling 3-5.

Total cost saved.. 60-100.

Useful? I think not.

[OneWingedDemon]

If some people don't like it, they aren't forced to use it. If some people like it, they can use it. This barely passes as a debatable topic, SQ isn't forcing anyone to use this in the least, it's actually better than nothing at all.

[2.0]

Fair enough. Yes the Scout Beret is better than nothing. Just not by a lot.

[Jujube1030]

I didnt read all the post; but skimmed through most of them and they all seemed to be based on the ignorant fact that they believe you may save what, 3-5%?

I am a lvl 75 ranger and have the Scout's Beret and it activates a hell of alot more then what everyone seems to think. I still have not done extensive testing but I defintely notice a difference when using it. I would say an extra 30 shots per stack of ammo.

Accuracy is NOT an issue at 75; i have over 80 or close to 90 ranged accuracy with my accuracy equip on and its overkill especially with the Accuracy Bonus IV. I have an optical hat and change equip depending on SITUTATION, in fact i carry an alternate item for almost every slot because i may not always want accuracy accuracy accuracy.

/comfort poweryoga
Sorry i didnt visit thread sooner to help you out with these ignorant people >.<

[poweryoga]

*hides behind jujube* ; ;

[2.0]

30% Jujube1030? Yeah you're gonna have to start some of that extensive testing.