The arrow making fallacy.

[excaliburefire]

So far woodworking has been really cost efficient at the beginning like for Stone and Bone arrows but when you get to Iron Arrows that's a different story. Here is what I found:

Wind = ~125each
Iron Ingot = ~2500each
Ash Lumber = ~330each
2xChocobo Fletch = ~60 for 2
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2955x3=7865 for 99 arrows.

You can buy them for 1k to 1.5k for 99 arrows

For Silver Arrows


Wind =~125
2xYagudo Fletch =~50 for 2
Silver ingot =~2000each
Arrow Wood =~175each
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2390x3= 7170 for 99 arrows

You can buy at AH for about 1.7k for 99

Now at level 35 woodworking for Beetel Arrows

Earth =~25each
Beetle Arrowheads =~108each
Arrow Lumber =~175each
Yagudo Fletch =~25each
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333 x 3 = 1000 for 99 arrows

You can buy at AH for about 1k which comes even unless you make your Arrow lumber from the guild then it gets a little bit cheaper.

Now the only way I think would be good is raising Smithing, Goldsmithing and Woodworking all together but that's imposible and mine for some silver ore and iron ore to make ingots.

So what is the point?

[Cometgreen]

You're using the pretty crappy way to make silver arrows.

Earth crystals, 300 a stack
Ashwood lumber, 2200 a stack (from gs)
Yagudo fletching, 500 a stack
Silver arrowheads, 2800 a stack
5800 for 396 arrows, or 1450 for 99 arrows
1500 for 99 arrows at AH

At least, that's how it is on Phoenix. At higher level, you save more money because you can craft 66 or 99 arrows with one synth.

Cometgreen, not trying to make a point, just specify on silver arrows

[excaliburefire]

Yeah after writting into this post, I realised that there was other ways of making the arrows with the recipe you have specified and I way better then the recipe I showed you. Also to make iron and silver arrows you can use one Ingot to get 6 bags of arrowheads. So if the AH is out of arrows you can make them. Now I just have to raise my woodworking which is going very slow.

[Sinzer]

Or you could go to your local general items NPC and buy bone arrows for 4gil a peice!

That makes it 396 gil per stack. Of course for more profit you could just put these on the AH and rip people off :p

Any items under level 10 are usually cheaper from NPCs.

I have got my RNG to 11 at a cost of around 20K, that is not too bad I feel. I have full scale, R Archer Longbow and some minor items. No +1 bows yet as I will wait till powerbow as the other bows are too scarce to be worth the gil and I won't be using them for that long at this level.

I am pretty pleased so far with RNG, even at level 10 my little Mithra can outdamage anything else, we had a bad pull with 2 canyon crawlers, I thought I would try out my 2H....... 168dmg and one tough crawler down in one shot, pretty impressive for level 10!

I will most probably get to level 15 with RNG then use it for a sub for THF for farming. Back to Bard till level 40 so I can do BCNMs and finance RNG through the higher levels

[Novac]

I'm a carpentor at skill level 45.

I never buy wind/earth crystals. 1500/300 gils from AH

I never buy arrowwoods from AH. 100gil for a stack in GS.

Horn arrows are what I'm about to demonstrate in profit calculation:

Stacks of 12:
Horn arrowheads: 1500 AH.
Bird Fletchings: 300 AH.
Arrowwood: 100 GS.

Total cost: ~2000 gil.

Yield 4 stacks of Horn arrows without fail. Sells for 1500 each for a total of 6000 in AH.

I make 3k. If I bundle them into quivers, I make even more.

Now..... the hard part is selling it for 1500 per stack. Competition will drive it down to perhaps 1300 even.

Therefore... I sell them personally to rangers I know. They buy without hesitation.

Now if you cut your own arrowwood, you lose maybe 1500k in profit since you have to use wind crystals. And also an addition of earth crysals for 300 more gil. That'll cut your profit down to around 4000 per stack of ingredients.

If you buy the ingredients from AH, here's the breakdown:

Stacks of 12:
Horn arrowheads: 1500 AH
Bird fletching: 300 AH
Arrowwood lumber 3000 AH

That's a wooping ~4000 AH

As you can see, arrowwood lumber is the main concern. So either buy it from GS or make your own arrowwood lumber.

Of course, I didn't factor in the explosion rate since at level 40, I make 1 stack of Horn arrows with probably 1 whole stack of ingredients. That's when it's full moon. If you factor in the cost to get your skill up, you might break even. But hey, you got the skill up, right?

[poweryoga]

i don't know what the heck you're talking about, but i've saved over 200k by just making my own arrows, plus some huge profits on the side.

I craft my own scorpion arrows. I crafted my own horn arrows. I crafted my own silvers, etc. All the arrows (Except iron) that i used i made.

Of course you can fail, duh... you're saying crafting beetle arrows mean 100% success? you make it sound like all the other arrows fail more than beetles.

If the prices of the materials are the same as the arrows, you're one of the people that waste their money buying arrowood lumber in the AH. I've never bought a stick of arrowood lumber in the AH. Ever.