Are Rangers really powerful?

[Thegod]

i agree, but people act like rngs just suck vs. bone and shell mobs, i found that every jobs dmg goes down a lil vs these types of mobs, its just rngs use piercing WSs (i was never got to sidewinder) and those type skills do less dmg to those type mobs.

I think people put too much on whose the best DD and forget what THE OTHE ddS BRING TO THE TABLE.

I.E.

darks and their ab- spells, and drains

Sams- their ability to SC with two meelees simoltaneously

and so on

i think the only other pure pure DD would be mnk, but even they have helpfull party abilities like chakra _wht mages doesnt have to cure them as much.. not a great advantage but it helps.


But yeah rng>>>over all other DDs

[Hisdon]

Originally posted by imac2much

In case you are curious, these are the leveling spots we followed to the best of my knowledge:
49-51: kuftal robber crabs (xp'ed here with 5)
51-53: boyahda robber crabs and knight crawlers
53-55: terrigan robber crabs and goblins
55-56: gustav goblins and robber crabs
56-58: movalopolis moblins and bugbears
58-59: valley of sorrows raptors and perytons
59-60: ru'aun gardens flamingos (xp'ed here with 5)
60-62: boyahda skimmers + steelshells
62-64: boyahda darters and processionaires
64-present: den of rancor tormentors (xp'ed here with 5 near the end)

woah...you exp at like everyplace 3-5 levels early O.o; that's crazy

[imac2much]

I couldn't tell you were being sarcastic, so I apologize for that. It's hard to convey sarcasm online sometimes.

Originally posted by Thegod
i agree, but people act like rngs just suck vs. bone and shell mobs, i found that every jobs dmg goes down a lil vs these types of mobs, its just rngs use piercing WSs (i was never got to sidewinder) and those type skills do less dmg to those type mobs.

Not just WS... everything about RNG is piercing. Arrows, bullets, bolts, barrage, WS, what have you, they are all piercing. Even daggers are piercing. The only weapon that a RNG may use that isn't piercing is axe (francisca), but remember that 90% of our damage comes from ranged. The penalty of piercing on bones is 50%, which is extremely significant. Suffice to say it is TRUE that rng suck vs bone. Shell... no, they just have several def up traits (like PLD), no particular weapon type (pierce, crush, or slash) does better on those.

[Spider-Dan]

I was in a LV24-25 party in Kazham today that had myself (Mithra SAM/RNG), a Hume RNG/WAR, and a Taru THF/NIN (added later to replace a party member that left). I logged the results.

Mithra SAM/RNG
Total Fights: 29
Average Damage: 265.48
Average Percent: 25.6
Average Accuracy: 61.29
Estimated DPS:

Hume RNG/WAR
Total Fights: 29
Average Damage: 267.21
Average Percent: 25.93
Average Accuracy: 54.27
Estimated DPS:

Taru THF/NIN
Total Fights: 25
Average Damage: 268.92
Average Percent: 25.91
Average Accuracy: 53.12
Estimated DPS:

This basically mirrors the results I saw last time I was in Kazham as a NIN/RNG. THF slightly outdamaged everyone else.

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In the interests of full disclosure, here's some of the details.

I was the only one of the three that had VE/LL. I think this would impact the THF the most. I pretty much had +1/+2 everything while they had more common gear.

RNG was using PB+1 but only Iron Arrows, which would account for some accuracy/damage difference. He was using some axe in main hand.

THF was usually using only using one SA per fight; no preloading of SA at all. He was also using Acid/Bloody Bolts, or trying to, anyway. I didn't check if he was swapping to RACC rings, but his ranged accuracy was... not impressive. He was using sword/dagger combo.