Money ~ Its A Problem

[FeralisCallidus]

Yeah, I know silver bullets do insane damage ~ but they ae 10k a stack!

(wow, the money is just piling up, isn't it?)

Also, about your friend who claims that equipment is the killer, not arrows, tell him to wait.

At this lvl, I go through at least 5k a level in arrows. Ten levels? 50k. And the amount used INCREASES with the amount of exp needed INCREASES. It's a pain.

[Brer Fox]

Arrows should sell at merchants for:

Wooden - 1 gil
Bone - 2 gil
Iron - 3 gil
Beetle - 4 gil

Etc. Only then will the price be reasonable. Or just, for god's sake, lower the higher level arrow crafting levels from freaking 35+! It takes level 35 to make a damn beetle arrow? That is RIDICULOUS. I'm going to have to go back to San and take a few weeks out of my play time to just level carpentry so I don't go broke later on.

[Surfer`]

Yep. That is what hurts RNG, non-refundable expenditure that has to be repeated constantly. However, I think the cost is perfectly balanced and I do not mind paying extra to play a different class.

And RDM actually has to spend a great deal on spells as well(Dispel, Refresh, Phalanx if you are really well off), not as much as RNG in the long run however 80k is a lot for a class that may not be accustomed to gil farming. So when you dismiss the RDMs cost you are being as ignorant as those who dismiss the cost of a RNG.

[FeralisCallidus]

Hardly. I realize how much RDM costs, but in my experience that is nothing to what a GOOD Ranger must pay.

Phalanx - 80k

Ranger's Warbow +1 is just as expensive, if not more so.

And the nonrefundable arrow expenditure dwarfs the one-time-only cost of Phalanx and Refresh (also note that the purchasing of these gives one a sense of accomplishment ~ not true with buying arrows, it just depresses you =P)

[Surfer`]

You need to think long term and Phalanx costs 200k on my server.

I spend around only 10k on arrows for 1 level ~43.

And pertaining to equipment the War Bow+1 costs 40k on my server, not a massive cost really.

I don't know if your server's economy is skewed and you are really suffering hardships, or if you are merely complaining about something which has been discussed numerous times.

And I do agree with you to a certain extent considering you used my words to describe the arrow cost you do too. RNG is more expensive longterm but not significantly enough to merit any more reductions in cost.

[cnick]

Originally posted by Surfer`
You need to think long term and Phalanx costs 200k on my server.

I spend around only 10k on arrows for 1 level ~43.

And pertaining to equipment the War Bow+1 costs 40k on my server, not a massive cost really.

I don't know if your server's economy is skewed and you are really suffering hardships, or if you are merely complaining about something which has been discussed numerous times.

And I do agree with you to a certain extent considering you used my words to describe the arrow cost you do too. RNG is more expensive longterm but not significantly enough to merit any more reductions in cost.

I may be reading this wrong, but there is no way you only spent 10k on arrows through your first 43 levels. I spent roughy 5k at my level; I can only expect that to rise as I get higher up.

[ChezGod]

I usually used 3-4 stacks of arrow per level

[Surfer`]

I spend 10k on arrows to gain 1 level around level 43. 10k is only for 1 level and not for 43 levels.

I roughly use 99 arrows for every 1.2k exp. I do a arrow -> dual daggers -> arrow cycle. I end up using around 5-6 stacks for 1 level up with each stack of scoprion arrows going for 1700 gil.

6 x 1700 = 10200 gil to up 1 level.

[FeralisCallidus]

Well, I guess after I sell these leaping boots (and attain lvl 40 ~) I can start with BCNMs. Those should be a valid source of income. :sweat:

[Telona]

You wanna talk expensive? I'm leveling ranger and whm at the same time. :sweat:

I play a good deal more than my friends though, so I have time to level them both and farm money. Farming is a welcome diversion from the grind. We all are leveling quite a bit more slowly than most hard core gamers though.

I love both jobs, so I'm glad I have the opportunity to do both.

[McClane]

I just spend 100k to get from 46 to 50 only on arrows

I think to become a high lvl rng you need to spend a little more time on it then some other jobs (if not all) but there aren't as many high lvl rng's as for example whm's so you be somewhat more unique then all the other high lvl's, that's pretty cool too ^^

but if you get to know some good ways too make money you can keep up with others pretty good, I'm not so far behind with some of my friends but I think the main reason for that is the timezone, I live in europe and if I want to lvl fast I need to play on NA timezone that's like 2:00 AM till 7:00 AM

It's also very importent to get some good pt's cause for a rng if his/her pt sucks then it will cost more money to lvl up then when in a good pt, I would try to make your own parties and try to make them good ^^

And for the job choosing, it's really simple, choose what you like, there are a few jobs that I think are always good (pld, whm, brd) but all the other jobs have something bad about them, so choose the job you like, the game will be more fun that way

[Cobalt Katze]

Let me put it this way:

Ranger is a job that basically can only function very well if you have the best at everything.

People often get this mixed up with other jobs because to be honest, you can pull off jobs like WAR or MNK without the absolute best equipment you can aquire.

My pal Russta and I are currently in a set PT together, me as RNG, he as WAR. Now, normally you would say I'd be spending tons of gil and he'd be slipping by with only paying for his gear and food. This however isn't the case, as he is dedicated in being the best he can at his job. Yeah, I dished out a good chunk of money for equipment. However, a lot of RNG equipment is somthing you keep for a long time, namely physical equipment like leaping boots or emperor pin or martial slacks that up your AGI. Since HQ rings and bows are the staples for Rangers, they're the only ones that get bought and sold, making their price significantly less than if you were aiming to buy a HQ sword, axe, or armor for WAR. From all I know he's easily spending as much or more than me on his equipment because of his dedication to it.

Every job has their nuances to pay for, it's just a matter of the player's dedication and willingness to shell out for more effective power. Play long enough and it comes instinctually.

And about arrows; if enemies die quite fast and you're powerful enough to pull agro and die using Iron arrows, do you reasonably need to be more powerful?

[Yukk]

You guys should invest into crafting. I was a ranger lvl 44 about 2 weeks ago................im still lvl 44 right now since iv been crafting like mad but im lvl 50 leathercraft. Now im ready get back to lvling up but now i have emperors hairpin and leaping boots which i bought with my crafting money. And basically have money for arrows and everything. Can't wait to get a gun at lvl 50. The point is ......start crafting. (And i dont' mean cooking)

[ClydeArrowny]

I agree with Cobbi in the fact that for a long time, nearly every job cvan be as expensive if not moreso than rng if both go all out on equipment. Thf may be considered a "cheap" job however I have 2 corsair knives, lust dagger, lv55 sword, brigandine+1, 2 dex+3 rings going to get +4 soon(also going to get snipers soon to complement the dex rings) VE, LL, RSE belt(going to get lifebelt too to compliment) along with other equps. Brigandine+1 is 500k corsairs used to be 450k each(dropped to 190k ; ; ) lust 80k, 55 sword 50k...it all adds up. Euriphtes(sp) bow is expensive...sure, but so is blue coaterdie(sp). Overall, at higher level, rng will probably spend more than other jobs on arrows, but other jobs can be expensive as well...and about being able to resell stuff...brig+1 hardly ever sells and stuff drops in price like my corsair knives, so money IS lost there too.

[Aniga]

Originally posted by FeralisCallidus
Phalanx - 80k

*cough* 350-400k *cough*