Money ~ Its A Problem

[FeralisCallidus]

martial slacks that up your AGI.

Should only be using these until lvl 30, where you get cent. cuisses, then lvl 34 with Bastokan or Republic (recommend republic) cuisses.

[excaliburefire]

Ok you guys talk how much you spend like 25k for this bow 10k of arrows per level and all that stuff, but man can you give some tips how you get the money to pay that stuff. Right now I'm doing woodworking and fishing which is paying not too bad to support my white mage but at level 30 I wanna get ranger so...

Any suggestions?

[FR3YA]

Well.... right now , my RNG is LV22, and I spend ~800 per 99 arrows, and buy 4-5 sets per LV. That's ~3800 Gil per LV till 24, silver arrows are ~1500 per stack right?

Well..... since my THF is LV58, I can LV ranger up for awhile before having to farm.

(WHM currently 11, working on to 25 so I can hunt coffer)

Anyway, good thing to do before LV ranger is LV thf.

EDIT: SIG WAY OFF *goes to update*

[Kenki]

Don't really know how much I spend since I make my own arrows but from the estimate price on the market I spend about 6~10k of arrows per level.

I think I can see the future of paying a lot for ranger but for me I think I can bare it. Since, you pay a lot as a ranger only. I pay for Blm, whm, war, mnk, brd and bst cost from armor/weapons to spells and songs. I want my job to best the greatest possbile (well no emperor hairpin or strider boots yet) so I buy all armors (no-resell, just keep in mules) that I can and will use. I also buy all spells/songs for whm/brd and blm from NPC for about 5~10 levels in advance. Those take a lot of money.

I also taking the cost of crafting: woodworking (43 - going to increase) and cooking (lv 50 - stopped).

Where did I dig up all the money? Crafting - gives you some money. Farming - gives you a lot of money. Logging/minning/harvesting - the heck of a lot of money. NM - huge money maker. Picking one is not enough, manage your time and do all of them if possible whichever save you more time. I only do 2 craft and farm but I think I'll pick mining when I start goldsmith which will come after I get lv 50~60 in both weaving and boneworking.

And yes I level way slower than any other players (slowest of the slow), most of my friends are breaking lv 60 wall while I don't even have a job past lv 35. I don't care, I make a ranger my way~! I can be in every job and in every situation. I can sub whatever job I want while others keep whining about "dam, I should have been a warrior...."

[Thylteev]

Stick with woodworking. Since you're a level 30 white mage this really should be easy for you. Let me explain: Go get your ranger job and, if you must, just keep it at level 1 for the moment. Next, go to Selbina or Mhaura and check the weather in La Theine and Tahrongi (respectively) for windy days. Go to where there will be wind storms, then scan and find the air elementals. Once you do, cast banishga over and over and over. That spell seriously owns these elementals I've found. I fought the ones in Tahrongi naked (since my white mage is retired for now).

Take the clusters you get and make arrows. Lots of them. Sell them and you'll be making some good money. I can make several stacks of beetle arrows from one cluster (more than 4, usually, because of HQ lumber). Four stacks will make 3,200 gil. If you spent 300 gil on earth crystals and 1,000 gil on the arrowheads, that's a pretty good profit and, believe me, they sell pretty quickly. Arrows are expendable.

[excaliburefire]

I know crafting is a good idea but yesterday I was preparing to check if it's worth and and found the following:

Wooden Arrows - Cheaper to make
Bone arrows - Cheaper to make
Stone Arrows - really efficient save big bucks crafting

Now here is the rest:

Iron arrows: End up spending way more crafting
Silver arrows: same thing
Beetle arrows: Same thing.

And I mean it was a really big difference in price. Like 1k gil to buy 99 iron arrows but cost like 7k to make? What the hell

[kyus]

The only arrows on our server that are cheaper to buy then make are Iron Arrows. And no one really makes those because of this reason.

All the rest on up (especially up) are cheaper to craft, and you can make money making them.

I am currently at 60 woodworking; I craft arrows at 1/2 to 1/4 the cost that they sell at the AH on Pandemonium.

Without any HQ, you will notice a 1:1 ratio or a little better in your favor.

At high woodworking, you will get HQs often, especially on Arrow Wood. It is not uncommon at all for me to only use 4-5 Arrow Wood to get a full stack of Arrow Lumber. Also, I frequently get 66 arrows instead of 33.

Crafting doesn't save you money until you start rolling in the HQs.

Honestly, I have not saved any money yet with Woodworking, but the tides are finally turning and I don't think it will be long until I am grateful I did indeed bring up woodworking.

BTW: It only costs ~100k - 120k to get 60 woodworking

[obsidian]

Iron arrows are cheaper than what you can make because they cost 8 gil each off a vendor in Bastok.

[Myth]

wow, only 120k to get to lvl 60 woodworking, please tell me your secrets ^^ i havnt raised my wood skill yet, i did smithing for some strange reason. so what recipies should i be doing?

[Seymour]

I decided to level up a Ranger for my new job and I did a little research before I made the decision. Yeah the arrows do add up after sometime but I noticed that the best RNG equipment is almost the cheapest in the whole game on my Server. I'm looking at all this level 60+ HQ RNG equipment and they never go like above 20k. Same thing with bows as well. When most jobs hit 60+ "the best equipment" requires HNM material. DRKs need Hauberks, Mages need vermillions, ect. RNGs don't have anything like that so that saves you 2-3 million later on. I think that sorta makes up for all those arrows you have to spend your money on. You aren't really required to have anything that costs more than 100k really. Yeah sure there’s that nice 3 mil level 55ish bow but there’s a bow a few levels below it that’s about 95% as good as that 5 one but only costs like 15k. Sorta the same situation for BRD.

[FeralisCallidus]

I decided to level up a Ranger for my new job and I did a little research before I made the decision. Yeah the arrows do add up after sometime but I noticed that the best RNG equipment is almost the cheapest in the whole game on my Server. I'm looking at all this level 60+ HQ RNG equipment and they never go like above 20k. Same thing with bows as well. When most jobs hit 60+ "the best equipment" requires HNM material. DRKs need Hauberks, Mages need vermillions, ect. RNGs don't have anything like that so that saves you 2-3 million later on. I think that sorta makes up for all those arrows you have to spend your money on. You aren't really required to have anything that costs more than 100k really. Yeah sure there’s that nice 3 mil level 55ish bow but there’s a bow a few levels below it that’s about 95% as good as that 5 one but only costs like 15k. Sorta the same situation for BRD.

Eurytos' Bow, Dusk Trousers, Francisca, Peacock Charm/Spectacles, Anemit Mantle, Strider Boots.

[Seymour]

Originally posted by FeralisCallidus


Eurytos' Bow, Dusk Trousers, Francisca, Peacock Charm/Spectacles, Anemit Mantle, Strider Boots.

Strider boots are just luxury gear. They're more like "hey look at me, I have 3 million gil to throw around" type stuff. They wont help you do more damage or be a better rng what so ever. LL boots or AF are better and every rng knows it. Yeah, if you pull a monster you'll get back to the PT 1-2 seconds early. Whhopy freaking do. You're usually just sitting there anyway if mages have to regen mp or whatever or waiting for stuff to pop :spin:

IMO it’s usually the richest people who do the worst at their job. They’re more worried about wearing what is most expensive rather than wearing really what’s best. One time I examined a BRD in a level up PT wearing a freaking Peacon Charm. Same thing with a PLD I know that wears a scorpion harness. Very useful is you ask me~~

I dunno about Dusk trousers. They’re currently impossible to get on my server unless you’re in some big HNM ls. The point I was trying to get is that HQ RNG gear is pretty much just as good as the HNM items RNG can use. It’s not some big ass jump like the difference between DRK AF and a Hauberk. Again there’s a bow that’s about 90% as good as that 3 mil one but it costs 15k. I think that will only guarantee extra 2-3 damage a hit. That isn’t much if you’re already doing 200+ as it is.

[Trimpton]

Every job is not exepensive as a ranger hands down. It is simply a fact.

Every time you shoot an arrow you lose it, its gone.

Now that that is understood, when you are say a thf and you buy a corsair knife or a pld and buy royal muskeets bp you have a item and you use it. Then you resell it to make your money back. You lose a little bit of money from the time of buying to the time of selling but you dont lose completely.

When a caster buys a spell, they use it over and over and over again. They use level 39 spells till they are 50.

When you shoot an arrow its gone, one time use. You never get that money back. Thats why you cant compare them. Rangers are far more costly because there is no return on arrow investment.

[FeralisCallidus]

The point I was trying to make, Seymour, is that ranger does have high-level gear that he will want to get. And it is VERY expensive.

I don't see a DRK spending 1.5million gil on a scythe.

[Bluejoker1118]

1.5 mil...oh great i guess ill be farmin for a bit when i go rng...Thank god for farming lizzy with wide scan. It all balanced out cuz with Wide we get a greater advantage at hunting big NMs like lizzy and emporer. Well anyway rng is bad until you gotta start getting iron then its all farming... /sigh. It makes the makes the game challenging which is why we play not to JUST lvl. RNGs need arrows before armor which is really bad at later lvls..RNG is bad but BLM and NIN are worse..some of those 500k spells and needing 100k for 1 pt to utsusemi tank or you suck just my opinion. Craft too it helps.But im not a rng yet so dont mind me