Ranger and Subjob Question. (Please Read)

[OWA_900]

OK, I plan on gettin to my Ranger as a Warrior/Theif. When I get there I was thinking of Being a Ranger/Ninja, Ninja being for the Accuracy and other stuff. Now is there a better choice than this in your guys' opinion. If so, why? Thank you.

BTW, any suggestions on Leveling Up spots in the early stages?

[Bishop]

I personally despise war/thfs that are under lvl 30. There is no raeson to sub thf when your main is under 30. Some may argue that you get treasure hunter, which is something not needed in an exp party. In addition to that, most wars that do sub thfs have thf subs that are around lvl 7, horribily underleveled. I'm not sure why the combo war/thf is becoming more popular, but the job combination is horrible under lvl 30 in my opinion.

Anyways, in my opinion, rng/nin is the best combo. With good agi boost equip and ranged accuracy boost equips, VE pin, LL boots, drone earrings, ranger necklace, a good bow, dual archer's knife, beetle ring+1s, you'll hardly miss. Just my opinion.

[OWA_900]

That first part was very interesting, so what Job do you suggest I Sub rather than Theif?

[Bishop]

if you exclude the adv jobs, I would suggest subbing mnk. It gives the most hp boost, which is something wars need since they are usually used as tankers. You also get boost, a 15 sec ability which also stacks. I would choose a war/mnk over a war/thf anyday.

[OWA_900]

OK then, I will highly consider this then. Thank you very much, I greatly appreciate it

[Bishop]

there is also another common myth that people tend to believe. People think that when they go rng/thf, they get more agi because thfs have high agi. I'm a lvl 23 rng I think (haven't played rng in a while (T.T'). Anyways, this other guy and I had a little debate on which sub will provide the most agi for rng. I went to my mog house and subbed war, then proceeded to sub thf. In both combinations rng/war and rng/thf, my agi was exactly the same. The only thing rng/thf gave me was a dex boost, which is something I didn't need. rng/war on the other hand gave me an str boost, which will effect my ranged attack damage.

[OWA_900]

Ummm, earlier you mentioned that the Best Sub for Ranger is Ninja, but now you mentioned about being a Theif or Warrior for the Sub... so what is it I should do lol.

And what are some good spots to Level Up at in my early stages?

[Bishop]

Do a /sea all rng in your server and you will notice that there are a lot of low lvl rangers that sub thf. I'm just pointing that out. Ye sin my opinion rng/nin is the best combo, others may disagree, but rng/nin should come pretty close to what they think is the optimal combo anyways.

For your earlier stages, just lvl up around the areas of one of the three nations. Sub warrior and use arrows. Arrows will seriously kill like 2/3 of anythings hp at low lvl. When you get to lvl 10, get the lvl 10 bow. When lvl 12, get hunters bow. At lvl 16, get powerbow +1. At lvl 30, get greatbow +1. The thing that draws the line between a good ranger, and a great ranger is his/her equipment, so make sure you have everything up to date. This is why rng is so expensive.

[OWA_900]

When I get Ranger, do I have to wait to get to 18 Ranger to Sub Ninja? Or can/do I Sub him right from the start.

[Anom]

By the time you've gotten ranger (which requires you to have some job up to lvl30), you should have your ability to use subjobs... considering this ability is obtainable at lvl18 and there's NO reason why you shouldn't have it.

Therefore, if you were to get the ninja job before/at the same time as ranger, you can put them together. Just remember that you can't level subjobs...

Do a /sea all rng in your server and you will notice that there are a lot of low lvl rangers that sub thf.

This includes myself :sweat: but here's the method to my madness...

-MNK already at 30+ (this is just cause it's what I decided back in Oct. If I could go back in time, I'd have started with WAR or THF just to make this easier)
-slowly working THF to 15 for treasure hunter (that's really the only reason... I need money... and LL boots )
-level RNG as often as I can depending on my equip... if I don't have good enough equip to continue leveling, I'll take a break and go farm with my 15 THF until I do.
-Start from scratch with WAR and get up to 15
-Get NIN and bring it up to 15+ while I have that WAR subbed

End result: finally have what's required to get at LEAST 30RNG/15NIN

Maybe by then, something else will have sparked my interest... 'guess we'll see.

[OWA_900]

So does your Sub Job Level Up as you are Leveling up your Main? And you are suggesting that I just switch between the 3 Subs (WAR, THF, NIN) while LVLing my Ranger? Kinda like that?

Sorry I got kidna confused in the "Not being able to Level Sub Jobs" and then the part about how you went and LVLed the 3 different jobs to 15.

[Anom]

Originally posted by Anom
Just remember that you can't level subjobs...

You cannot level subjobs, only what you have set up as your main at that time. But you CAN switch your jobs out as often as you want.

And you are suggesting that I just switch between the 3 Subs (WAR, THF, NIN) while LVLing my Ranger? Kinda like that?

No, it's suggested that you at least have WAR subbed, if not NIN. You're much better off with either of those two than THF as a sub... the only reason I have THF going right now is because I don't have WAR... that's coming up.

This would be a case where you don't want "monkey see, monkey do". I'm being a bad example by subbing THF... and I'm kinda paying for it right now. Don't make the same mistake I did. My advice (and you don't HAVE to follow it, this is just what I've learned from my own mistakes) go WAR for now, then get RNG and NIN at your leisure once you've reached 30. Mebbe sub MNK for your WAR early on for the HP boost and extra damage, but THF should only be used exclusively for making extra cash... not for any kind of stat boosts or anything. :spin:

*whew* hope I didn't confuse ya

[Anom]

Double post, sorry...

Originally posted by OWA_900
Sorry I got kidna confused in the "Not being able to Level Sub Jobs" and then the part about how you went and LVLed the 3 different jobs to 15.

That whole schpiel I went on is all the redundant "cleaning up" I hafta do thanks to my one big mistake of not tackling WAR early on.

[OWA_900]

lol ok then, that clears it all up, thank you very much, I greatly appreciate it.

[Cometgreen]

As the FAQ at the top of this forum says, there are three preferred subs for ranger:

Warrior, for the strongest attacks.

Ninja, for the best hit rate.

Samurai, for the tp.

I was planning on becoming a rng/nin, but after playing ranger for a little while (just started today, and boy is it fun!), I think that rng/sam is a very powerful combination. Each hit, just at the early levels, gives 11-12% tp. After one fight, I usually have around 50% tp, which I find pretty fast. Combined with a samurai sub (at post 60, I guess), you'd be getting tp like mad and using Sidewinder constantly. But I guess ninja would still be the best for under lvl 60.

And earlier today, I did a search for ranger. Most were rng/war, some /nin and /whm, and only a few /thf. I'd only sub thf when you get past lvl 30 and you need some gil, which you often will. Treasure hunter will really help.

EDIT: Btw, when you're near lvl 30, start saving up your gil. If you are going to lvl up WAR first, skip on the centurion armor (whatever that expensive lvl 27 armor is), and try to save as much as possible as you can to start your ranger. I started with 12k, and I'm now down to about 5k at lvl 8 rng. And that's with getting some silk threads and selling back my Shortbow +1.

Cometgreen, trying to sound like he knows what he's talking about