This is a very blunt question

[Brer Fox]

But I'd like it answered in my context ^ ^

Is ranger a pain in the ass to play? Alright, I started a RNG two days ago, and at first I loved it, it was the coolest class ever, wide scan is awesome, killing things from afar is excellent, but then I started to miss... a lot, and die... a lot, and totally WHIP through arrows. (trying to conserve, too, by using a shot, one or two knife slashes, a shot, etc.)

Needless to say I'm losing faith in this class. I WANT to be a ranger, and wield that big bow and do that big damage, but just what is it going to take? Just HOW much money are we talking? It's taken me four stacks at 800 to get from levels 1-7, and I'm beginning to doubt the future.

I have a thief at 15, and a monk at 30, so I can easily silk for 12k gil in a few hours, but that's only 1200 wooden/bone arrows, and that seems like a lot, but now that I've been out in the field I'm beginning to realize just how little that is. I was, however, pleased to find level 40-ish arrows only at 1500 a stack, which isn't too much worse. But still, I don't want to be on some adventure and have to say 'Oh, jeez, guys, I can't play, I've got to go back to Windurst and farm cash for a few hours.'

Are the early levels in ranger simply that bad? Does it get better? Will I be wasting my time if I try to make a go of it? I hope I can. It just pissed me off a little bit when my samurai almost never misses a bow shot, and my ranger is missing every two or three. Of course, a ranger has a little knife that it swings like a granny and a sam has a great katana with that whole master swordsman thing going on. And the AF armor is just dumb, please, I don't think the pothead beret is very impressive, you know? And no JSE... rangers need some nice dark sniper's cloaks or something. Oh yeah.

I'm not trying to come off whiny, or as a 'I want everything for free and do nothing guy,' I just don't want to get myself into a hole I'll be too tired to dig myself out of.

[oozma]

Oh god yes. eairly ranger levels are HORRIBLE! i died probably atleast 30 times before level 10 :-/ but once your able to equip beetle rings and an archers dagger, you get about a 1/2 - 3/4 hit rate. But double weild archer dagger is way better
*(^-^)*

[Surfer`]

Accuracy gets better, cost gets far worse.

I'd say I use about 8-9 stacks for 1 level in a decent PT in mid 20's. I use the Silver arrows so by your server's economy I am paying about 12-13.5k for a level up from 25-26.

It gets worse later on when you need more exp per level therefore more arrows per level. You'll really start feeling the gil crunch late 20's and early 30's with the new equipment and increased arrow usage. In my opinion it is worth it if you can sustain it.

[Viktoria]

This is a recurring thread theme every few weeks (days?). No offense or anything, but, just look through some of the older threads and you'll see the exact same questions. People asking whether it's worth it, why they're missing so much, etc.

I won't repeat the advice given in those threads because I don't want to take credit for it - a lot of it is very sound and helpful. If you're looking for another opinion, I'll toss it in: I love ranger. When my one of my friends come online and none of the rest of us are around, they have to sit, wait for a group, and possibly keep joining new groups until they get one that's competent. Me? I waltz over and solo some VT worms and get exp in about the same rate they'd get in a half decent party. I don't have to wait for the group to assemble, and if I hunt the worms correctly, I have little (or no!) downtime.

When we all get our advanced jobs up to 30 or so and start scheduling hunts together, who will have had a more relaxing time getting there? So yeah, ranger's worth it, but you have to be willing to pay the price, both gil-wise and in your low level suckiness.

[nekote]

Originally posted by Surfer`
Accuracy gets better, cost gets far worse.

I'd say I use about 8-9 stacks for 1 level in a decent PT in mid 20's. I use the Silver arrows so by your server's economy I am paying about 12-13.5k for a level up from 25-26.

Whoa!! you must be loaded to use 8-9 stacks a lvl. I only use like 3-4 stacks a lvl from 30-40. I hope your just not shooting like a madman.

[cnick]

Originally posted by nekote



Whoa!! you must be loaded to use 8-9 stacks a lvl. I only use like 3-4 stacks a lvl from 30-40. I hope your just not shooting like a madman.

The 20s so far to me are being very rough to me :sweat:

Most mobs you fight are ITs, and you miss a lot! Even with best equipment possible, it seems like you're going 1/2. In an unorganized PT (not properly set up to fight whatever you're righting), I can see using up that many stacks per level.

[Surfer`]

My estimate was a bit exaggerated after I had a pt today. I will revise my value to 6-7 stacks per level which would still constitute me being a madman.

Dual archer knives work wonders and level 30-40 goes by way faster than 20-30 as a result of better PTs and more efficient hunting.

I typically fire 1 arrow then use a dagger attack then arrow cycle. Nothing overly ambitious, but when every PT in Qufim is comprised of clueless people what can I do? Not many people will be immune to the bad PTs which are a norm in Qufim and I merely gave a warning as to how that would effect any RNG trying to exp there.

I personally need level 30 so I can get half -decent PTs, after being level 55 this newb crap in Qufim is getting to me. The expiage in Qufim and other areas isn't really up for comparison as it is so different.

[cnick]

Originally posted by Surfer`
My estimate was a bit exaggerated after I had a pt today. I will revise my value to 6-7 stacks per level which would still constitute me being a madman.

Dual archer knives work wonders and level 30-40 goes by way faster than 20-30 as a result of better PTs and more efficient hunting.

I typically fire 1 arrow then use a dagger attack then arrow cycle. Nothing overly ambitious, but when every PT in Qufim is comprised of clueless people what can I do? Not many people will be immune to the bad PTs which are a norm in Qufim and I merely gave a warning as to how that would effect any RNG trying to exp there.

I personally need level 30 so I can get half -decent PTs, after being level 55 this newb crap in Qufim is getting to me. The expiage in Qufim and other areas isn't really up for comparison as it is so different.

Yes, Qufim is downright horrible. I found Valkurm to be a much easier experience (both times!) then Qufim has; it seems while there may be newer noobs at Valkurm, the mobs are much easier to deal with. Qufim mobs are a bit harder, and you definitely need a good PT to manage any sort of decent xp.

For example, no one ever tries to get a blm, especially when we're figting mobs with high defense like clippers. I find that I'm the only one dealing any damage, and I have to waste tons of arrows to save my PTs ass.

At first, it seemed kinda cool that I was owning anything in my path; now, it's just not fun anymore to blow 5-6k on arrows just to get a stinking level.

[nekote]

Yeah I hear ya about qufim. Its under beastmen control in my server (Ifrit) I call it noobville. Its funny how the noobs are always pulling a train of wights or a banshee. After lvling my Thf, Nin and Rng there I think I had enough of that for a while.

[Bryho]

***trust me***, make your own wood arrows. check for recipe, its 3am and im tired

[oozma]

; ; i shoot like a madman with my scorpion arrows, only use about 6 stack per level :p

[tongyang]

Originally posted by nekote
Whoa!! you must be loaded to use 8-9 stacks a lvl. I only use like 3-4 stacks a lvl from 30-40. I hope your just not shooting like a madman.

You don't shoot like a madman?

What do JP ppl call rangers don't shoot often? Žë“ü

[OneWingedDemon]

I shoot like crazy but, I use LV 14 Iron Arrows for regular use and the LV 40 scorpion arrows for barrage.

[Awntawn]

Originally posted by tongyang


You don't shoot like a madman?

What do JP ppl call rangers don't shoot often? Žë“ü

Heh the head is tipped over :spin:

[Kelqor]

I always shoot like mad man in PT. On average, I spend around 12 stacks/PT at 40+. The only time I swing my daggers are when I am engaging to use WS. Sorry but if I want to swing weapons and pull bow out once awhile, I'd made a different class.