people say we cant DD yeah right

[Thoris]

i am lv 51 i was on the lowest curve of the party51-53 but my dmg and my auto's dmg was out DDing even the drks. My auto was landing 220 Cb while i was hitting 190 raging fist, + 50 skillchian. My autos avg dmg was 40-60 crits 60+ while i was hitting about 30-70 per Total Hits. We were fighting crabs. We were getting 2 skillchains per fight. and i love how Cb ignores Def


now i still need the teir 3 attachments i only have some of the upper ones and basic.

[Malacite]

Re: people say we cant DD yeah right

^^b good to hear you had a good round of DD going there, just don't expect to keep up by end game though. PUP's good, but it's just not a dedicated DD like RNG or MNK.

Keep up the good work.

[Thoris]

Re: people say we cant DD yeah right

^^b good to hear you had a good round of DD going there, just don't expect to keep up by end game though. PUP's good, but it's just not a dedicated DD like RNG or MNK.

Keep up the good work.

The way i see it, things can only get better. we will get stronger, better gear, better things to do at endgame

on a side note i impressed a party member so much. once i get sea and sky i have a endgame ls to use with pup. At Endgame we might not have the highest dmg but our autos ignore Def and such, we will get stronger and stronger

[Pup~king]

Re: people say we cant DD yeah right

im 66 and i still hold well on dmg i average a 300+ howling fist and my auto (sharpshot) averages a 400+ daze. I feel that i do just as much dmg as any other job. not to mention the occasional flashes and/or shield bashes my automaton tosses out. Pup is definately still an asset to parties at this level despite what anyone may say.

[DakAttack]

Re: people say we cant DD yeah right

^^b good to hear you had a good round of DD going there, just don't expect to keep up by end game though. PUP's good, but it's just not a dedicated DD like RNG or MNK.

Keep up the good work.

Dedication doesn't come from the job. Stop putting it down, you're only spreading misinformation for all the sheeple out there.

[Kuro]

Re: people say we cant DD yeah right

The way i see it, things can only get better. we will get stronger, better gear, better things to do at endgame

on a side note i impressed a party member so much. once i get sea and sky i have a endgame ls to use with pup. At Endgame we might not have the highest dmg but our autos ignore Def and such, we will get stronger and stronger

While you get stronger, pure DD jobs get a LOT stronger.

[Malacite]

Re: people say we cant DD yeah right

While you get stronger, pure DD jobs get a LOT stronger.

Exactly my point. PUP is *not* a DD, so don't kid yourself. Like BST, it's a soloing job. That doesn't mean it can't DD (BST is apparently really strong if you fork out the cash, but then so is NIN...) it just means are other jobs that will excel above and beyond you.

I'm not trying to trash PUP here, I'm just saying don't get your head in the clouds with high expectations and have fun with the job.

EDIT: 1st sentence had a typo.

[Thoris]

Re: people say we cant DD yeah right

Exactly my point. PUP is *not* a DD, so kid yourself. Like BST, it's a soloing job. That doesn't mean it can't DD (BST is apparently really strong if you fork out the cash, but then so is NIN...) it just means are other jobs that will excel above and beyond you.

I'm not trying to trash PUP here, I'm just saying don't get your head in the clouds with high expectations and have fun with the job.

True but why is it if i am not DD i am Out damaging other dds as sam, war, monk ect.

My rng frame is doing 400+ easy Daze's and hitting for 120 ranged attacks while i hit for 20-40 per hit and do 250+ raging fist and we togeather over 600-800 dmg as a lv 56 pup

[Taskmage]

Re: people say we cant DD yeah right

It's because the differences in skill ratings don't get really pronounced until after level 60. At level 60 a mnk will have 203 h2h skill and you'll have 190. Not that big a difference. By level 75 the mnk will have 275 skill and you'll only have 225—a difference of 50 attack and accuracy. And while you will have better gear options open up for you, "real" DDs will get stuff that's (god help me for saying this phrase) even more better.

[Malacite]

Re: people say we cant DD yeah right

Plus, PUP can't get Asuran Fists, nor does it get as many Martial Arts traits etc. Anyway, don't let it get you down when the other DD jobs start soaring ahead of you and just enjoy PUP. If you're not having fun then what's the point right? ^^

[Thoris]

Re: people say we cant DD yeah right

yes pup has 225 skill at 75 non merits, and does not have Asuran Fist....


But we have a automation to cover up the back end. The auto will and does more dmg then us at higher lvs. So u cant critique a job on just the master u need to add in its pet also. if i were to have a view on job as smn u would use the dmg of the summon not the summoner. with pup its vice verse, u add in the dmg from both the master and the pup



I think Se will give us a increase in h2h and our autos a Tier 3 weapon skill.

[DakAttack]

Re: people say we cant DD yeah right

PUP is not a solo job, it's just not feasable. Our damage comes from our automatons, and our healing comes from our automatons. We're not going to put out enough damage on our on, and we can't count on the Stormwalker to back us up. It randomly nukes, enfeebles, and heals.

[Malacite]

Re: people say we cant DD yeah right

Except SE says it is a soloing job. They've said it repeatedly in recent interviews... whether you view it as such or not doesn't matter. They did say they had plans for a WHM and BLM head so that you guys won't be stuck with RDM (Storm) all the time which is pretty cool.

[ItazuraNhomango]

Re: people say we cant DD yeah right

At Lv.60, about 7 minutes to kill a VT Lesser Colibri, solo; Master tanks with /WAR and Defender up, Automaton supports/cures with occasional nukes.

Not a great kill speed, but looks like PUP would be good for soloing EM to T fights.

[Thoris]

Re: people say we cant DD yeah right

yeah they said it was solo, but only one guy said that, Probaly had no idea of what he was talking about.

Also back then Bst was not a solo job, they said they never wanted bst to solo, and never wanted smn to be main healer, the job becomes what the player base wants. And the playerbase for pup is they want to party. We need a better defineing role in a party, abnd yeah we can solo but everyone and there mother can solo with nin sub.


If we were meant to solo then i say drop the activation timmer down to 5 mins not 20.


i prefer to party, so i am hoping Se sees that and gives the Big overhaul they were talking about during E3