Ragnarok ragnarocks.

[Balfree]

And we have a 75 pup too.

... XD ...

[Kikuchiyo]

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that's sad.

[Akai]

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reisu is a nerd <_<

[avi]

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dude...go to sleep!

[Balfree]

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It's not Reisu, it's Urimoto or something... Reisu is already on the 70 range too though,

OMG STOLED FRON TEH KI LOLZ:

this is what he said:

At later levels, the more efficient automatons for party-play are Valoredge and Sharpshot.
Stormwaker is however, extremely good for solo play. (more later)
Automatons do not gain any new weapon skills past the ones we already know.
H2H caps at 225 ish.
Overload and burden doesn't seem to change at all as you level.
Thinks PUP needs to be improved for party-play, but is good enough for soloing alone.
Soloing constitutes Stormwaker automaton and /NIN sub (as someone had mentioned b4) to 'PL' yourself. This is good due to PUPs high Dodge rating.
Valoredge is good for tanking until Lv10 ^_^
The better subs of choice for PUP seem to be /WAR or /WHM for better offence or support. /WHM has significant use with mage eq on.
PUP (probably on /WAR) can outdamage BLU if BLU subs /WHM, but not if it subs /NIN lol

Regarding other jobs..

BLU is not too strong but works for every situation, and is good for healing and enfeebling.
1000 needles is not good.
COR is like BRD with small attack potential.
Rogue's Roll, Fighter's Roll, Evoker's Roll and Corsair's Roll are too powerful IHO.. lol

[Tirrock]

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75PUP... oi. ._. The AF weapon isn't even in the game yet.... Not that I expect it to be good. MNK's AF1 weapon was a total joke.

[Gobo]

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75PUP... oi. ._. The AF weapon isn't even in the game yet.... Not that I expect it to be good. Most AF weapons are a total joke.

Fixed.

Anyway, I think Bismarck's highest PUP is in their 50s or 60s, but we have a high 60s BLU and COR! >.>. (I'm not working anymore on PUP until AF is implemented)

[Aeni]

Re: Ragnarok ragnarocks.

Originally Posted by Reisu
Automatons do not gain any new weapon skills past the ones we already know.

Am I the only one that finds this amusing? Why do you ask? Because SE was thinking that majority of the players wouldn't level this quickly. Thus, adding additional content, job changes, etc. They're evaluating the progress and hoping to get feedback from players as to what works, what doesn't and what else they might want to see.

There isn't even an AF quest put in place yet ...

You can't fight Maat on any of those new jobs yet ...

People who level to 75 are idiots in my opinion. I mean seriously, hurrah, you got to 75. Big f*cking whup. None of your opinions matter anyhow because once the rest of the changes and implementation goes to effect, your own experiences would be nullified because it wouldn't be the same as 90% of the other players.

Possibly a penalty implemented by SE against these kinds of players?

[kazuri]

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I don't understand why SE would/should penalize the players who leveled to 70 and above? There's no reason to...

PS: People who hardcore-exp'd to get Maat's Cap before ToAU release were -so- smart.

[Jei]

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lol ^^ but exping is fun. for some job anyway.
having so much fun levelling pld

[Tirrock]

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I love exping, but I'm giving up on Maat cap, I think... I'll still level a lot of jobs, given the chance, just not all of them. >_>a

[Aeni]

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I don't understand why SE would/should penalize the players who leveled to 70 and above? There's no reason to...

Apparently you missed my point completely.

What is the point getting to 75 so quickly? Is there any advantage of doing so? Let's look at the following things that you would normally do when leveling a job class:

-AF Quests (You get to experience the story line from a unique perspective. This may or may not have anything to do with any other ongoing storyline from other quests or missions, but to me, it's very interesting and a reason to do the quests in the first place...)

-Being able to level and figure out how things work at the same time. Those players being PL'd now will have absolutely no concept on how to play their jobs and how to do it well. Being level 75 and trying to figure it out for the first time is retarded, almost on the same level as a player "buying" a level 75 character and figuring out how it works. Discovery of novel ways to use one's job abilities and as well as in which situation comes only with experience. Experience not earned but given through someone else's hard work (The PL) to me should not be allowed in this game.

-Maat Fight ... for those of you who thrive on challenges.

-Unique weapons/armor only for the new job classes ... may not be added for several weeks. Meanwhile, by blowing through the levels, you'll not even need it or get to appreciate the value of these items. Where's the experience then?

Wisdom comes only with experience. Experience comes only with hardwork and fruition. At this stage of the game, many of these players do not know the meaning of wisdom and right now all they're looking to do is have their egos stroked (or slandered in any event) I simply do not understand how any of these players will be able to figure out how their job works if they're getting an easy ride up. I highly doubt any claims from anyone that said they can master a job class in only a week of playing. To me, that's utter BS. Like wine, play ability matures only with time and a fond appreciation of it.

My 2 cents.

[Caspian]

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So what you're really saying is that SE isn't penalizing the players, but rather the players are penalizing themselves?
Biggest problem I see from them not taking their time, is that when the changes do occur they will have no way of offering advice on mid-level play.

[kazuri]

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It doesn't matter whether you enjoy getting to 75, earn advantages, or anything. Some do it for a sense of achievement or the thrill. I just simply meant there's no reason to punish players who zerg rushed to 75, nothing else really… I totally misunderstood what you said. You meant the non-added features and so-on is possibly a penalty for the players thought up by S-E; I understood it as "I think S-E should punish these players.” See where the problem was? I had no intention to look down on your point of view; maybe I worded it a bit too harsh or something? My apologies Aeni~

PS: While having powerlevelers makes it (way) easier on those EXPing (and in some points, unfair even?), it doesn’t necessarily mean they’re going to hit those levels unskilled and gimped. I’ve seen BLUs 65+ testing out various playstyles and subs, maxing out their efficiency by not gimping themselves (ie; Learning abilities). Although, I do see your point; the majority of them are just zerg rushers without a second though as to whether if they’re gimp or not.

[Balfree]

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I agree to the sense that these people will be learning their jobs all over again, they wont know the ropes of midlevels or anything, but hardly matters, so they rushed it, their problem. I know im gonna enjoy every bit of my journey with PUP, if they wanted a quick 75, more power to them, i chose to have fun instead.

Dont make such a big deal out of other people's decisions, theyre paying just as much as you are right? Sure i think its sad, but i also dont give a rats ass to how other people want to enjoy their games.