Reprisal

[Malacite]

Order of the Blue Gartr • View topic - Initial Reprisal Testing and Information


Thanks to BG for the info

[Yellow Mage]

Re: Reprisal

Apparently, PLD 61.

So it's not subbable, big deal. It doesn't stack with Ice Spikes, anyway, which I'd rather have than more Shield blocks (even with an F skill).

PLD basically has a Shield-based Counter now. Neat.

[Celeal]

Re: Reprisal

That is interesting...

Now I am wondering... a size 1 shield, with more damage taken and more damage reflected, plus higher proc-rate for more frequent reflect and TP gain (I could be wrong, not sure how proc-rate is changed by this new spell), vs. the traditional size 3 shield?

/me still waiting for the d/l to be completely... 4 more hours to go~

Added: Another thing to test is see how hate is affected by each damage reflection.

[Armando]

Re: Reprisal

Now I am wondering... a size 1 shield, with more damage taken and more damage reflected, plus higher proc-rate for more frequent reflect and TP gain (I could be wrong, not sure how proc-rate is changed by this new spell), vs. the traditional size 3 shield?

The Size 3 shield will provide a much bigger increase in damage reduced on average when given an increase in proc rate. In fact, if the increase in proc rate is big enough, Size 4 shield may even be better (during that 1 minute anyways.) Ultimately I feel that is still the most important factor, since more native damage reduction = more capability to go all-out damage-wise and still take less damage than the next guy.

S-E must really love me.

[Celeal]

Re: Reprisal

Yea, Size 4 shield is another option too.... now it gets really interesting ^o^!

[Armando]

Re: Reprisal

Heh, I just realized that this spell makes testing/verifying shield damage reduction easier.

Good thing I never tossed that old Scutum. Mostly because I couldn't get rid of it.

[Malacite]

Re: Reprisal

More importantly, as I said before this update, it breaks Aegis

[WishMaster3K]

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Stating that Aegis was ALREADY broken.

But It's possible that it maybe raises things proportionally, So Aegis gets a smaller bonus compared to a Size 1 Shield.

But wow, I just can't wait to get on line and go farming. PLD might have some decent farming survivability now. I get sick of MHing all my gear just to get on RDM. -_-

That 3 Minute recast (essentially 2 minutes without it) is awfully depressing.

[Hankthetank]

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But wow, I just can't wait to get on line and go farming. PLD might have some decent farming survivability now. I get sick of MHing all my gear just to get on RDM. -_-

Pld/Rdm is really insanly surviable already. You can solo a ton of stuff on Pld.

With some haste gear my recast on Reprisal is 2:10 so with 1min duration can keep it up just under hald the time.

You can still reflect damage even with Stoneskin up, so you dont have to actually take damage. Phalanx however does decrease the amount of reflected damage.

Sincerely,
Hankthetank

[Armando]

Re: Reprisal

PLD might have some decent farming survivability now. I get sick of MHing all my gear just to get on RDM. -_-

You've never done /RDM, have you?

Phalanx however does decrease the amount of reflected damage.

Absolutely false. Phalanx does not decrease the reflected damage. Neither does Sentinel. And my Jelly Ring doesn't seem to decrease it either.

This spell wins, by the way.

[Raitox]

Re: Reprisal

The tank job for 3 year-olds gets easier.... and easier....





-Someone who can count to 3

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

Re: Reprisal

Absolutely false. Phalanx does not decrease the reflected damage. Neither does Sentinel. And my Jelly Ring doesn't seem to decrease it either

Why wouldn't Phalanx decrease the reflected damage when Cocoon does? At least, that was the case when I've seen Cocoon and Gallant's Roll active together. I realize Phalanx and Cocoon aren't the same thing, but sheild blocking improvements aside, Gallant's Roll is rather similar to Reprisal

Also, Hank's one of the better tanks I've had the pleasure of working with, so I tend to trust his observations. I don't think he pulled that statement out of his ass.

[Murphie]

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The tank job for 3 year-olds gets easier.... and easier....





-Someone who can count to 3

Wut?

[WishMaster3K]

Re: Reprisal

You've never done /RDM, have you?

Yeah I have, but I put my RDM survivability at a rating of 1, and I compare PLD survivability to it. PLD/RDM probably rates at a .60 on my scale.

This spell wins, by the way.

It fails because I can't have it on all the time!

[Akashimo]

Re: Reprisal

Phalanx however does decrease the amount of reflected damage.

Absolutely false. Phalanx does not decrease the reflected damage. Neither does Sentinel. And my Jelly Ring doesn't seem to decrease it either.

Calculated before Phalanx, Stoneskin, Sentinel and Invincible. (Will reflect damage appropriate to the amount you would have taken without them.)

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