Full-Time Paladin Head

[Selphiie The Enchantress]

Right now I have two options for what to wear for main head gear for Paladin, as you know from a previous thread I'm not one for visual gear swapping for Paladin except for Valor Feet for Sentinel for the 100% Damage reduction.

Anyway right now my two options are:



and



And although the Walahra turban is just a no brainer for /nin, i rarely do /nin, I will always be found as /war or /rdm for Paladin. I just can't seem to decide between the two for my Turtle/Blood tank setup.

Although about 80 more floors of Nyzul until I have a chance at my:



And luck at claiming Fafnir to get my:



Once i get those two i don't think i will be seeing the Walahra Turban again, and the Adaman Barbuta is going right back onto the AH.

But for now Turban and Barbuta is what im stuck between for my /war and /rdm build.

Any thoughts?

[Raydeus]

Re: Full-Time Paladin Head

Adaman, the +Emnity and +def far exceeds any possible gain from Haste +5% alone.

But then again I've always been a turtle kind of PLD so my opinion might be a bit too old school for the times.

[Celeal]

Re: Full-Time Paladin Head

To OP:

May I ask how frequent your PLD is going to cast magic or swing weapon? If not frequent then Haste from Walahra Turban won't help much.

P.S: For PLD/NIN, Walahra Turban is no brainer as you already stated. For PLD/DNC I found that Walahra Turban is actually helpful ---- shorter Flash timer plus better TP gain.

[MrMageo]

Re: Full-Time Paladin Head

moar enimty moar vit moar def ^^

[Selphiie The Enchantress]

Re: Full-Time Paladin Head

May I ask how frequent your PLD is going to cast magic or swing weapon?

as PLD/RDM I'm always casting magic, reapplying Phalanx/Stoneskin/Blink/Aquaveil, casting Blind to keep hate, etc. If i have some MP to spare i'll throw up a Blaze Spikes.

As for weapon swinging:

I use this as my main weapon for /war,/rdm,/nin, almost 99% of the time.



The other 1% of the time when im /dnc in campaign or soloing as /dnc, or places ill need a little more damage output or don't need the +emnity from the Macauhuitl ill use my Joyeuse:



Hope that answered your question so you so you can help answer mine ^^

(i sure am one for visual aid...lol)

[Icemage]

Re: Full-Time Paladin Head

If you're PLD/NIN, the Walahra Turban is a clear winner for its effect on Utsusemi recast.

For any other situation when you are tanking as PLD/anythingnotNIN, the Adaman Barbuta will probably serve you better.

For any situation where you need more damage and are less concerned with tanking, the Turban still wins.

For non-/NIN tanking, the Aegishjalmer is pretty hard to beat (and maybe even with /NIN, depending on the rest of your Haste build, as 7 enmity in one slot is awfully hard to find).


Icemage

[Celeal]

Re: Full-Time Paladin Head

as PLD/RDM I'm always casting magic, reapplying Phalanx/Stoneskin/Blink/Aquaveil, casting Blind to keep hate, etc. If i have some MP to spare i'll throw up a Blaze Spikes.

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Hope that answered your question so you so you can help answer mine ^^

(i sure am one for visual aid...lol)

In my humble opinion, Emnity+ is the direct way for getting mob's attention. It is the main purpose of Emnity+ gear. Just put on the Emnity+ gear, and it will do what it is suppose to do. No need for tricks, no need for work-around, very straight forward.

To be honest, what works for one PLD, may not necessary work for another PLD. I suggest you to try both pieces yourself

[MrMageo]

Re: Full-Time Paladin Head

wait wait I got the piece of gear you need

Bronze Cap +1

ftw

[Callisto]

Re: Full-Time Paladin Head

If you can't get a Bahamut's Mask anytime soon I'd definitely have to advise the Aegishjalmr. That is a huge stack of emnity in one piece and not something to be taken for granted, I'd take an extra 5 emnity over the extra 3 VIT of the Barbuta any day.

If you wanted to be picky, I'd personally still carry the Turban with for /WAR and /RDM, and swap it into Flash and Stoneskin casts.

[WishMaster3K]

Re: Full-Time Paladin Head

As a career RDM, I find it hard to justify NOT switching gear, but I understand the reasons why a PLD would be against it.

Honestly... Enmity for Flash and Haste for Utsusemi.

I'd rather have Haste for Flash and just have enmity on other actions, because a reduction in timer results in more Flash casting over time. Maybe when you're at the enmity cap, full Haste is fine, but it's all situational.

EXP/MERIT, I'd do haste, because you need the timers. But Haste is only for DoT, Flash and Utsu, whereas Enmity can apply to more areas.
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But then again, I'd say that 5% Haste outweighs +2 Enmity.

[Raydeus]

Re: Full-Time Paladin Head

I still think for the specific aplications the OP was talking about (as in non /nin tanking while he gets the other 2 better head pieces) Adaman is the way to go.

[Kitalrez]

Re: Full-Time Paladin Head

You know, when I saw this thread's title I was expecting a very different post. I'd like the record to show that I am VERY DISAPPOINTED. Ahem.

From the perspective of a back-liner and usual healer, I'd lean toward having you take the Adaman. It's not that the Turban wouldn't let you keep hate similarly, it's just that you'd be taking a bit less damage and needing a bit less effort to do your job. That translates into less mp usages on Cures and Earthen Wards from me. Also less having to amp things up to get ahead of the DRK's dmg spike. It seems like the turban would be more useful to you if your Joytoy saw more action. With /RDM for phalanx, though, I'd stick a bit more def and vit on. I think you'll see better results.

[Callisto]

Re: Full-Time Paladin Head

You know, when I saw this thread's title I was expecting a very different post. I'd like the record to show that I am VERY DISAPPOINTED. Ahem.

I actually was expecting it to be about that PUP Valoredge thingy.

[Sevv]

Re: Full-Time Paladin Head

Adaman, the +Emnity and +def far exceeds any possible gain from Haste +5% alone.

But then again I've always been a turtle kind of PLD so my opinion might be a bit too old school for the times.

There is no real one is greater then the other it all comes down to the situation.

moar enimty moar vit moar def ^^

Vit is broken it doesn't do shit, it is a joke like wearing vit rings.

If you're PLD/NIN, the Walahra Turban is a clear winner for its effect on Utsusemi recast.

For any other situation when you are tanking as PLD/anythingnotNIN, the Adaman Barbuta will probably serve you better.

For any situation where you need more damage and are less concerned with tanking, the Turban still wins.

For non-/NIN tanking, the Aegishjalmer is pretty hard to beat (and maybe even with /NIN, depending on the rest of your Haste build, as 7 enmity in one slot is awfully hard to find).


Icemage

Where this is right i just need to stress for pld/nin tanking you need both turban and a enmity head piece.

As a career RDM, I find it hard to justify NOT switching gear, but I understand the reasons why a PLD would be against it.

Honestly... Enmity for Flash and Haste for Utsusemi.

I'd rather have Haste for Flash and just have enmity on other actions, because a reduction in timer results in more Flash casting over time. Maybe when you're at the enmity cap, full Haste is fine, but it's all situational.

EXP/MERIT, I'd do haste, because you need the timers. But Haste is only for DoT, Flash and Utsu, whereas Enmity can apply to more areas.
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But then again, I'd say that 5% Haste outweighs +2 Enmity.

Where as its enmity v 5 haste yes the haste will more or less out weigh.


As for the usable good heads for pld.


Hard to get, drop rate as well as trying to get cloud evokers


When do these not drop, could probably get one free or for a max of 500k from you any major hnmls.


Easy to get very effective


Easy to get but lolbastok

---W turban Line (Arguable above Af2) ---


AF!





I did leave out hydra salade, the drop rate and the amount of ls that spam Dyna-Tav it is probably the rarest.

[eticket109]

Re: Full-Time Paladin Head

You know, when I saw this thread's title I was expecting a very different post. I'd like the record to show that I am VERY DISAPPOINTED. Ahem.

I can't say I didn't have the same thought, if only briefly.