Midgame

[Celeal]

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Congrat with the Suppa ^^b

[WishMaster3K]

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THAT WAS MEAAAAAAAN!!!!

But in any case, it's a new quote.

Edit:

Thank you for the congrats! It's only taken me 2 years of periodic failures, and last night we totally own Divine Might. The secret is actually in having good kiters.

I was kiting the Elvaan, and she's a dirty whore, but Bind never was resisted, and if it was, I either had shadows, gravity, or stoneskin to fall back on and hold her off. Point was, I had an abundance of tools in comparison to her weapons. I'm glad I never gave her TP, because I saw our PLD drop to a 2300 Spirits Within from her.

But anyway.

BLMs would nuke Taru, melee would pull the Mithra and RDMs kept pets slept while kiters did their thing.

On each successful run, by the time we wiped, we had the Galka, Mithra and Taru down. First sucessful run took us 15 minutes to do that, second successful run took us 9 minutes to do that.

With the rest of the alliance pounding on the Hume, I would kite the Elvaan in the circle so that they didn't get hit with her AOEs, but the Hume went down FAST.

Faster then a College Freshman having sex after the 4th round of beer pong fast.

I was then free to Nuke the Elvaan and pay her back for Shield Bashing me like it was going out of style.

I was SOOO tempted to get the Knights Earring, but at the moment, I'll get more usage out of the Suppa, and Sword Skill helps out my RDM and PLD, so it's all good.

Edit2:

While we're on the topic of Midgame (yay! I brought the post back from the dead >. <), I had some gear questions.

Really wish I had a current screenshot, so just replace the helmet in the picture with the AF Coronet.



I was thinking of upgrading to that lvl 55 Kite Shield, but I'm not sure if I should get it, because it's only 1 DEF more and +3 MND and I lose the STR..

And swords. I'm not getting the Gluttony, not in my budget. Any recommendations?

The only gear upgrades I see are the legs at 58 which I have, Haubergeon full time, but macroed out into AF Body for Flash and Provoke, or at the very least, Hauby for WSs..

But I'm conflicted on Swords. Should I try the Wise Wizard Anelace?

Oh and I replaced that Drone earring with that Cure Potency earring for PLDs.

[WishMaster3K]

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Some gear I'm interested in.



And I was definitely going for the Rajas but.. IDK. Thinking in terms of end game, I'd never use it as a RDM, and Melee PLD is only one dimension of the game (exp/merit) and if I was meleeing, there'd be alternatives. I don't forsee myself ever really using the Rajas.

Actually, I'm not going to discuss that comment. I'll leave it here for reference, but I'll direct that to my endgame thread.

Anyway. For midgame, the Bibiki Seashell is without peer, I believe.

Ok, that is all. I'm looking at KI posts right now, but there is a lot of crap to wade through.

[Aeni]

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I've never had any doubts about PLD tanking. Most people thought I was stupid. They thought I was a bit slow in not associating more exp with NINs and less exp with PLDs.

I don't know. I don't care about 20K/hr exp with ???/NINs stroking their e-peens at each other. I rather an "average" outing with a fun, competant PLD and group of players. Yes, that includes having a SMN who actually do not have to MH the group or even a BLM. I rather that than 5 melees senselessly beating something that look like it fell off a side of a mansion (the horror movie ones)

Oh ... I think I meant a gargoyle.

[WishMaster3K]

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LMAO. I love PLD also. It's a lot more consistent than NIN.

I know there were many situations me and my parties got into where had I been a NIN, it would have been UGLY.

I know that at least on PLD I can voke a link (and flash the other add) then spam JAs and Cures on myself till they get slept and/or the current mob is dead, and just trust my WHM to cure bomb me all the while. If things get bad, I pop an Invincible and it's like Flies to candy the way these mobs run at me.

I LOVE PLD. Idk if I made that clear, just wanted to re-emphasize.

[Celeal]

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To WishMaster3K:

In my last party in Bibiki Bay, my PLD parsed 23% total evasion with SH full time. Compare to the parses of Haubergeon PLD (Zempten's and Armando's) in this thread, which is 20% evasion, I don't think gear swapping during Flash would make much impact on "overall" evasion. My parry is about 5%, which is similar to the parses of Haubergeon PLD. IMHO, it is safe to assume than a typical PLD can avoid 1 out of every 4 hits (in average) with Flash/evade/parry in a typical exp. party.

[Zempten]

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Wish

If your going to be going DD then I'd suggest the Tiphia Sting (Accuracy +2,Attack+2) for your WSing or if your DDing full time. The HP- might hurt you a bit but seriously when you come to a point where 25 life is all you got and the mob is hitting you your not really seeing a high chance of surviving unless your PT is smart (Stun/Flash/Cures) which is rare. I'd only see you dropping down to something really low on the Magma Crawlers. I used it on my PLD cause it was pretty nice.

I'm tired of this PLD and NIN arguments. Seriously. Player > job. That's all I'm going to say. If I ever get on a situation where we have an add I can easily elemental wheel on the add with my Arhat +1 Enmity stuff along with others, which will easily get me hate especially since it's comming from a link and has no other hate on it. As far as the whole Sentinel/Invincibale argument, if your PT is going to have adds like that . . . it's not even safe to begin with.

Defeintly get the Hercules Ring. It's cheap and it's a step above Mermaid Ring. As far as the neck item. I never used it and I kept hate fine while eatting Sole Sushi. The only time your going to get hate ripped from you is when your PTing in the 70s where meeles just ripped through hate like you dont' even exisit. Even in a situation like that I doubt 3 Enmity is going to help you much at all. In my 74/75 PT (I was 74), SAMs and WARs and DRKs were just ripping it off me - there was zero point in me wearing any enmity (hell I had them rip hate off me after a Sentient and cures and flash). Not to mention fights only last under a min.

As far as the Rajas Ring question ask yourself how many other jobs your going to lvl and keep in mind that Rajas can be used for 11 of the jobs (MNK,THF,WAR,BST,DRK,NIN,RNG,SAM,BLU,COR,PUP) in a exp Situation as opposed to the tank one for 2 of the jobs (PLD and NIN) and then the mage one for 5 of the jobs(BLM,RDM,WHM,SMN,BLU,). If you can't make up your mind rest assured that you can always redo the fight to choose again.

[Armando]

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Tiphia Sting is nice but is low-priority in terms of purchases. Not enough bang for your buck.

By the way guys, the time to buy Woodsman Rings is now lol

[Zempten]

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I'm more interested in the aspect of capping my Staff and using Full Swing with a Primate Staff +1 with some STR instead of Spinning Slash atm ^ ^ Please don't laugh =P

[WishMaster3K]

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You'll have to forgive me, Zempten-san, I am extremely biased.

[WishMaster3K]

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After tonight's PT



; ; I'm so proud of myself!! Anyway, 10k/hr, and I'm about 6k and change to 58.

Oh, what's everyone's opinion on the BQ Ring? Just realized I can equip it. It seems like it's largely useless though, but it's nice to have as Trophy Gear when I'm standing around. And the Gluttony Sword? I was thinking of using it for a few levels then selling it when I can equip the Bastard's Sword.

[Armando]

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Grats man. That's what makes it all worth it :D

BQ Ring has its uses, but not in EXP. Gluttony Sword is just "meh" in my eyes. Been over it before - 7 VIT doesn't do as much as the higher DMG/sec and +12 Attack of T.M. Espadon +2 etc. etc. Plus it costs more.

[Lmnop]

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T.M.+2 ftw. Armando converted me. It's even better than WW Anelace.

[WishMaster3K]

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Well I stayed up late (3am) with a JP Pt. I'm exhausted at work, but I suppose it was worth it. I'm pretty excited. Tanked Puks last night. They were conning IT High Def so I ate Bream Sushi. Was finally able to do Spirits Within, so I used the BQRing for that and was breaking out some decent numbers (I have 1020~ HP when I have BQ Ring and my back piece is active w/o Tav Tacos). I think the range was 450~ish.

Anyway. This is the gear of the DRG in the first PT of the night.






After the second party, we are left with:


I'm pretty excited. Especially with the new updates, the two SAMs I exp with are going to be raping the mobs 6 ways from Sabbath, and my sword skill is at 195 so when I ding 59 I'll have Vorpal AND my Haubergeon!!!!

/panic


I'm so excited for tonight.

Edit:

Ok!!! Back in action!

Well, the PT with the DRG and RNG performed extremely better than the pt with the MNK and THF. I noticed that when you're with a pt for a while and you guys understand the limits of yourselves and the party, it's generally much easier to find a swing that works. In this way, after I dinged 58 and started relying more on Flash, Provoke and spot curing myself with Cure 2 (faster Cure time and I passed the cap a whiiile ago), I let the other mages take care of my HP.

This helped because the BRD was pulling like it was going out of style, and Puks actually hit me for a decent amount. But thankfully, Puks being harder than Colibris was balanced by the fact that I could eat food and save TP for Spirits Within, so it was all good.

It was a higher end PT, so when my static hits 59, I'm assuming we won't be able to fight Colibris anymore, and I don't think anyone is in the mood to fight Spiders.

[WishMaster3K]

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The Sipahi set is good macroing fun. And it's real cheap. Going to try it with Vorpal, I got the Head and the Legs. Not sure about the hands or the feet though.