Midgame

[DakAttack]

Re: Midgame

You can start to ease back on Vitality. Your AF will last you all the way until the mid-seventies, and you can mix and match the other equipment slots as you please.

At around fifty-two you can fight bats at the secret entrance in KRT., and around fifty-four you'll begin fighting colibri. After that you'll probably only fight Colibri, and Imps until seventy-three. They have low defense and don't hit very hard.

Though when I was coming up the sixties everyboy was exclaiming LETS FIGHT FLIES AND CRAWLERS THAT SHOOT FIRE OUT OF THEIR MOUTHS!!! HA HA!

[Armando]

Re: Midgame

ERUCAS ARE HORRIBLE AND I CAN'T UNDERSTAND WHY PEOPLE LIKE THEM. LOSING 80% OF YOUR HP EVERY MINUTE IS NOT GOOD. COMING CLOSE TO DEATH 30 TIMES AN HOUR IS NOT GOOD. D:

*ahem* Repressed feelings.

[WishMaster3K]

Re: Midgame

Yeah, I just had my last Taco for the night, so I suppose I'll give sushi a try.

[WishMaster3K]

Re: Midgame

For the record, I use this site for info on camp sites and such.

PT disbanded, I'm gonna go solo my Feet.

[ItazuraNhomango]

Re: Midgame

Tavnazian Taco at Lv.50? Err... Well, I guess it is better than Shallops Tropicale, but the price isn't too good.

At that level, my PLD always had three food in inventory: Shallops Tropicale, Tavnazian Taco (backup Def food, in case I died early; rarely used), and Dorado Sushi.

Come to think of it, Taco and Dorado are at the same price now. /sigh. Good thing my sister made all the Tropicale I can use for me. I guess Bream Sushi is a reasonable substitute for Dorado.

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Edit:
Erukas are fairly squishy. If you don't mind the possibility of an occasional death, and confident about keeping their flames away from the backline, they are pretty good. Incinerate helped to keep our WHM awake, too.

One death in five hours of exp'ing on those for my PLD. No one else died. (Though the Taru SAM's were roasted a few times. Oh well.) Good enough for me.

[Omni]

Re: Midgame

Always, just that there aren't always enough gear options to do much about it ;D Lv.40 is when things really start to pick up though (Hello there Woodsman Rings, Swordbelt, Lifebelt).
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lol, so again, when does it matter? did you disagree with me just to agree kinda sorta thing? :p

[Armando]

Re: Midgame

Well, if you want a specific level, I'd say 40 (because of Woodsman Rings, Refresh being right around the corner at 41 which'll let you eat Sushi, and a bunch of good DD gear becoming available shortly afterwards.) Even before that you can still use Tiger Stole, Beetle Earrings, and Mighty Rings to boost your Attack by 21 by Lv.24, which is no trivial amount at that level. So yeah, even at low levels it matters, it's just that post-Refresh our options open up a lot more.

[WishMaster3K]

Re: Midgame

Just tanked Ouryu.

Fucker hits HARD when he's in the air. Had a good team, so it was ok.

I can't eat Fishkabobs anymore, I think I'm above the cap.. 253 w/o Protect.

MAybe a few more levels, I suppose.. Which food is up next, Shallops? I don't want to waste 3hr food on times when I might be doing things in short bursts, or if we're doing "dry runs" *(did two on Ouryu tonight, btw)*

[Celeal]

Re: Midgame

Just tanked Ouryu.

Fucker hits HARD when he's in the air. Had a good team, so it was ok.

I can't eat Fishkabobs anymore, I think I'm above the cap.. 253 w/o Protect.

MAybe a few more levels, I suppose.. Which food is up next, Shallops? I don't want to waste 3hr food on times when I might be doing things in short bursts, or if we're doing "dry runs" *(did two on Ouryu tonight, btw)*

With a few gear adjustment, eat attack food and use Defender all time should be able to get similar result with defensive food at level 50~60ish, but a lot cheaper. I had tried Coeurl Sub + Defender from lvl 60+ in some exp. party, and it worked.

As an alternative, I suggest for a Shield-AGI mix set up, it works very well for me. My current setup have enough shield/parry/evade that I can depend on Cure II spam, and rarely use Cure III. For Hume, just add enough AGI+ to the VIT base level. For example, if the base VIT is 50 (without gear or food), add enough AGI+ until total AGI is around 50+. The rest of the slot can fill-in stuff like defense, VIT+, ACC+, etc. (P.S. I am not sure what value is good for other race).

lol, so again, when does it matter? did you disagree with me just to agree kinda sorta thing? :p

As for PLD attack+ or DD mix setup for blood tanking, I think the goal is to raise the hate threshold, so that the DD in party can output more damage (faster and greater). It is NOT something like DD-blood-tank-all-in-one or pseudo-DD tank. Balance is the key. There is an amount of acc+/attack+ that can actually helps, but going all out like actual DD is not going to work for blood tanking in a typical exp party situation.

[WishMaster3K]

Re: Midgame

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[ItazuraNhomango]

Re: Midgame

Where is Life Belt? And, is that an Antivenom Earring? Hope you swap that out when not resting. =b

[Empedocles]

Re: Midgame

I'm surprised no-one's mentioned Parade Cuirass yet... or have I missed it?

It's a damn good alternative to I.M, I know I used it (still use it) for pre-60 stuff.
Gotta love that +enmity.

[Armando]

Re: Midgame

Parade Cuirass is pretty awesome. Also very annoying/tedious/kind of time-consuming to get. You can use Jaridah at 55 so it really depends on how badly you want that 2 enmity for 4 levels and mission caps.

Also, I agree. No matter what kind of mob you're tanking, Lifebelt > Warrior's Belt +1 any day of the week. Try to get Woodsman + Vernerer if your budget allows. Double Woodsmans is optimal but cost-wise, you end up paying plenty more for a 2 Acc improvement, so it's really up to your budget. For whatever it's worth the Venerer also lacks the -5 Eva which helps your Flash. If you don't mind gear swapping then an attack earring to replace your Insomnia earring when not at full MP. Personally I use two attack earrings because my shield tests kind of killed my interest in small amounts of shield skill.

Speaking of which, now that I have Phalanx/Stoneskin though I should really do more extensive tests one of these days.

[WishMaster3K]

Re: Midgame

Sry, forgot to put that's me "Fully Turtle"

I have those earrings for HP/MP sometimes.

Think I should just sell my Warriors Belt +1 now?

[ItazuraNhomango]

Re: Midgame

Dunno. Post Lv.50, my def/VIT build uses Jungle Belt, but that's Mithra only. Not sure what non-Mithra PLD's would want in its place.

Full Def/VIT build is what I usually bring to events, like to CoP 5.3 Mine Shaft #2716 fight, where I have to keep two Moblins occupied for a while by myself. Even used Earth Staff for that. (lol. Is that old school or what?) Was supposed to substitute as DD for a second party missing people, but ended kiting a bit anyway.

I kept my Warrior's Belt for lower level capped fights.